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Title: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 09 2015 09:57:54 PM MDT
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/tom-cotton-zarif-letter_n_6835538.html?1425955185

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif dismissed the letter as a "propaganda ploy" on Monday. "I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement 'with the stroke of a pen' ... it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law," he said in a statement.

What have I said? The GOP are jokes when it comes to foreign policy, Iran just made them look like idiots.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Patriot on March 10 2015 06:56:54 AM MDT
I think you're confused sir. Only congress can remove a majority of the sanctions against Iran. Obama can make any agreement he wants, but it will have no affect of law without the congress. Congress could actually vote to make the sanctions stricter. The Iranian guy might be correct that an agreement can't merely be taken back by the next president IF the agreement was legal to begin with, but before it can even come to that, the congress must vote to lift the sanctions. The president can't sign an executive order undoing an act of congress. Sorry.

Secondly, this act could be considered a treaty, which must go through the senate with a 2/3 vote.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 10 2015 08:59:29 AM MDT
Patriot, you think the other 6 nations will let that happen?

That will ruin the credibility of the US and when we attack we will be on our own.

You truly have no clue about domestic and foreign politics.

The GOP made themselves look like fools, but keep defending them.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: P33v3 on March 10 2015 09:06:47 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 09 2015 09:57:54 PM MDT
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/tom-cotton-zarif-letter_n_6835538.html?1425955185

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif dismissed the letter as a "propaganda ploy" on Monday. "I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement 'with the stroke of a pen' ... it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law," he said in a statement.

What have I said? The GOP are jokes when it comes to foreign policy, Iran just made them look like idiots.

Oh great so now we're listening to a terrorist sponsoring state.

So let me get this right:

A criminal, who employs criminals, wants to get into an agreement with other criminals. We used to call that a Crime Syndicate.

The current administration continues to wipe their ass with the Constitution. They allow (and I guess encourage) the Top Law Enforcement Official to provide guns to the Mexican Cartels, and now are trying to become friends with a leading sponsor of terrorism?

If Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif (and terrorist supporter) said the sky was blue I'd walk outside and check. I would not quote him on anything even if he was saying his own name.

No thank you. It's the Democratic Party that is the joke. They and the Sheeple that support them are sadly out of touch and supporting the enemy. They should change their name to the Democratic Socialist Party or maybe the National Socialist Workers' Party. Oh wait that was the name of Hitler's Political Party so they wouldn't want to use that as it was shortened to the Nazi Party. Then again maybe they should.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 10 2015 09:10:36 AM MDT
The crime is being committed by the GOP.

TREASON is the word we are looking for, if you have proof Democrats are violating the US Constitution please present your proof.

btw: Bush a Republican started the gun running program, but since he is GOP well all is forgiven.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Patriot on March 10 2015 09:15:40 AM MDT
I'm starting to doubt you're even a gun owner. You attack the GOP at every opportunity. You link to articles from the Huffington Post, an ultra liberal news organization. You defend Obama and anti-gun policies. The fact is, the majority of people here don't hold your views. If you truly are a gun owner, I have to question your support of a party that would take your guns if they could. Despite the failures of the GOP on many issues, I don't fear them taking my guns. I don't fear them weakening our military. I don't fear the GOP taxing me into bankruptcy. You need to wake up.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: P33v3 on March 10 2015 09:23:30 AM MDT
Quote from: Patriot on March 10 2015 09:15:40 AM MDT
I'm starting to doubt you're even a gun owner. You attack the GOP at every opportunity. You link to articles from the Huffington Post, an ultra liberal news organization. You defend Obama and anti-gun policies. The fact is, the majority of people here don't hold your views. If you truly are a gun owner, I have to question your support of a party that would take your guns if they could. Despite the failures of the GOP on many issues, I don't fear them taking my guns. I don't fear them weakening our military. I don't fear the GOP taxing me into bankruptcy. You need to wake up.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 10 2015 09:23:42 AM MDT
Doubt that I own guns?

Why?

I am not a one issue voter.

The GOP has weakened our military with elective war for 10 years and now wants MORE war with Iran who has double the population of Iraq. Yet you know better.

The GOP took a tax rate that was going to have us debt free in 2012 and changed it and now we are $20 trillion on debt.

But hey, you prefer borrowing and spending so what do I know.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: my_old_glock on March 10 2015 10:14:54 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 10 2015 08:59:29 AM MDT

The GOP made themselves look like fools, ....


People or groups should concentrate on doing what they are good at.



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Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Charlie_Zulu on March 10 2015 02:25:42 PM MDT
Quote from: Patriot on March 10 2015 09:15:40 AM MDT
I'm starting to doubt you're even a gun owner. You attack the GOP at every opportunity. You link to articles from the Huffington Post, an ultra liberal news organization. You defend Obama and anti-gun policies. The fact is, the majority of people here don't hold your views. If you truly are a gun owner, I have to question your support of a party that would take your guns if they could. Despite the failures of the GOP on many issues, I don't fear them taking my guns. I don't fear them weakening our military. I don't fear the GOP taxing me into bankruptcy. You need to wake up.

^^^^This!

If you are, in fact, a gun owner I would think the Liberalgunclub.com would be more your speed.

Your bit is comical... and becoming tiresome.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 10 2015 02:55:50 PM MDT
Whats comical?

You prefer one way communication?

Whats that gotten you?

A establishment GOP that does what it wants regardless of what you want.

The GOP front runner Jeb a real liberal and you will vote for him as told.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Patriot on March 10 2015 03:39:20 PM MDT
Honestly, I've become a one issue voter.

Gun rights. That's it. I just want to protect my family and myself.

Abortion laws will never be changed. Gays are going to get the right to be married. The tax rates change with the wind. 20% to 30% doesn't make much difference. Foreign policy is a joke for both parties. I did my time in the military so war or no war doesn't affect me much. Things like Obamacare will come and go. Then come back again. Nothing can really be done to change the way politics works.

But I'll say this. The republican party is the party that has stood up for gun rights, been tougher on crime, and passed laws allowing people to defend themselves without fear of being prosecuted (stand your ground, castle doctrine).

Until that changes, the republican candidate will get my vote. The safety of my family is the most important thing I care about.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 10 2015 03:48:34 PM MDT
Good for you Patriot.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: cwall64 on March 10 2015 03:50:20 PM MDT
Quote from: Patriot on March 10 2015 03:39:20 PM MDT
Honestly, I've become a one issue voter.

Gun rights. That's it. I just want to protect my family and myself.

Abortion laws will never be changed. Gays are going to get the right to be married. The tax rates change with the wind. 20% to 30% doesn't make much difference. Foreign policy is a joke for both parties. I did my time in the military so war or no war doesn't affect me much. Things like Obamacare will come and go. Then come back again. Nothing can really be done to change the way politics works.

But I'll say this. The republican party is the party that has stood up for gun rights, been tougher on crime, and passed laws allowing people to defend themselves without fear of being prosecuted (stand your ground, castle doctrine).

Until that changes, the republican candidate will get my vote. The safety of my family is the most important thing I care about.
+1
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 10 2015 04:16:24 PM MDT
Republicans are not tougher on crime.

Democratic states have the best Police and Correction Officers. The best city PD, the NYPD All the SP's in the NE are in the top 10 of state agencies. The county PD's of Nassau, Suffolk and Westchester are some of the finest in the nation.

Democrats train and pay for the best law enforcement in the nation. Republicans build PDs like the one on Ferguson.

As for Stand Your ground, only PUNKS shoot the unarmed.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Charlie_Zulu on March 10 2015 04:44:27 PM MDT
Quote from: Patriot on March 10 2015 03:39:20 PM MDT
Honestly, I've become a one issue voter.

Gun rights. That's it. I just want to protect my family and myself.


BINGO!!!
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Rojo27 on March 10 2015 06:23:41 PM MDT
Quote from: Patriot on March 10 2015 09:15:40 AM MDT
I'm starting to doubt you're even a gun owner. You attack the GOP at every opportunity. You link to articles from the Huffington Post, an ultra liberal news organization. You defend Obama and anti-gun policies. The fact is, the majority of people here don't hold your views. If you truly are a gun owner, I have to question your support of a party that would take your guns if they could. Despite the failures of the GOP on many issues, I don't fear them taking my guns. I don't fear them weakening our military. I don't fear the GOP taxing me into bankruptcy. You need to wake up.

RIGHT ON PATRIOT! 
Seems like the dude does little more than troll this site, spewing lefty slander and propaganda.  Sincerely appreciate that different points of view are welcome and encouraged here but the wild rants & ravings shtick of a fool has gone more than stale for me. 
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Pablo on March 12 2015 05:35:03 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 10 2015 09:10:36 AM MDT
The crime is being committed by the GOP.

TREASON is the word we are looking for, if you have proof Democrats are violating the US Constitution please present your proof.


Please tell us how this is a crime and exactly why it's treason? It's neither.

You and the loonie left in this country are just angry because somebody FINALLY someone is standing up to Runaway President. A president with a phone and pen who just lost his ass to public back lash on M855, and who has been grabbing more power than a mullah in Iran. Iran is a major state sponsor of terrorism and our President wants to sign some kind of unratified agreement with them. Senate has a perfect right to speak up PUBLICLY against some agreement we don't even get to see. Not sure why you and the left even think that's a good idea, but you would be howling like a stuck monkey if a Republican president were doing the same.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Pablo on March 12 2015 07:47:15 AM MDT
Oh and I am still waiting for your thread on Hillary's actual sneaky criminal behavior. Strange that you would vote for her and claim to be a gun owner.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: sqlbullet on March 12 2015 07:51:30 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 10 2015 04:16:24 PM MDT
...only PUNKS shoot the unarmed.

The training regime ALL the departments you mention, as well as every other POST program in the country, does not agree with  this statement.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 12 2015 08:27:21 AM MDT
Right now I would vote for Hillary over any current Republican. As I have stated many times the GOP needs a non politico with a good record like a General. Picking a House or Senate member will doom them and all the governors they have baggage also.

Give me a solid conservative and I will vote for him.

I could care less what training departments say, a punk shoots the unarmed 1on 1.

Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: longknives on March 14 2015 04:05:40 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 12 2015 08:27:21 AM MDT
Right now I would vote for Hillary over any current Republican. As I have stated many times the GOP needs a non politico with a good record like a General. Picking a House or Senate member will doom them and all the governors they have baggage also.

Give me a solid conservative and I will vote for him.

I could care less what training departments say, a punk shoots the unarmed 1on 1.

Good grief, where is the ignore list!
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 14 2015 08:08:48 AM MDT
Your first comment and you could not ignore, good grief.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Geeman on March 14 2015 08:51:53 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 14 2015 08:08:48 AM MDT
Your first comment and you could not ignore, good grief.

Believe me, he's not the only one.

Truth be told, I'm about to give this forum up because of this constant drone of political drivel.

Greg
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: The_Shadow on March 14 2015 09:24:23 AM MDT
Geeman, politics has ruined a many good forums!  I feel your pain! 
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Wolfie on March 14 2015 04:08:41 PM MDT
I prefered not to talk about politics, but was overruled.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: my_old_glock on April 13 2015 09:36:22 AM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 10 2015 04:16:24 PM MDT
Republicans are not tougher on crime.

Democratic states have the best Police and Correction Officers. The best city PD, the NYPD All the SP's in the NE are in the top 10 of state agencies. The county PD's of Nassau, Suffolk and Westchester are some of the finest in the nation.

Democrats train and pay for the best law enforcement in the nation. Republicans build PDs like the one on Ferguson.

As for Stand Your ground, only PUNKS shoot the unarmed.


Republicans want a Gestapo military police force. If they had their way, there would be Ninja SWAT personal in every classroom forcing the kids to pray.

Rodney King and Michael Brown got what they deserved. The police officer(s) did what they were suppose to do. 

Rand Paul (Republican) wanted to repeal all laws that disproportionately effected blacks, and other minorities, more than whites. Since blacks are more likely to be prosecuted for rape and murder, those laws would have to be repealed.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-paul-campaign-he-wasnt-talking-about-murder/article/2562683

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Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: GunBugBit on April 13 2015 03:48:21 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 10 2015 08:59:29 AM MDT
Patriot, you think the other 6 nations will let that happen?

That will ruin the credibility of the US and when we attack we will be on our own.

You truly have no clue about domestic and foreign politics.

The GOP made themselves look like fools, but keep defending them.
Obummer and his infantile foreign non-policy, and his lack of a strategy to deal with ISIS, and so many other things,  have already ruined the credibility of the US.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: GunBugBit on April 13 2015 03:51:18 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 10 2015 04:16:24 PM MDT
Republicans are not tougher on crime.

Democratic states have the best Police and Correction Officers. The best city PD, the NYPD All the SP's in the NE are in the top 10 of state agencies. The county PD's of Nassau, Suffolk and Westchester are some of the finest in the nation.

Democrats train and pay for the best law enforcement in the nation. Republicans build PDs like the one on Ferguson.

As for Stand Your ground, only PUNKS shoot the unarmed.
All right Joe Biden, take your meds and get back in your cage.  Was Moochelle's turn to watch you this week?
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Pablo on April 13 2015 05:42:58 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on March 12 2015 08:27:21 AM MDT
Right now I would vote for Hillary over any current Republican. As I have stated many times the GOP needs a non politico with a good record like a General. Picking a House or Senate member will doom them and all the governors they have baggage also.

Give me a solid conservative and I will vote for him.

I could care less what training departments say, a punk shoots the unarmed 1on 1.

Bullshit. You disqualify all the other candidates for "baggage", yet you would vote for Hillary. That's actually completely laughable. You wouldn't vote for a conservative, you are beholden to statism.  Everyone of your posts proves this so.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: sqlbullet on April 14 2015 08:02:54 AM MDT
Guys...

I am not sure there is much value in responding to these posts.  This user crossed a line and seems to have bid our forum farewell.

The line they crossed was personal attacks, and a couple of the posts above skate really close.  If you have a response of meaningful content, then provide it.  Otherwise, hold your tongue.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: Pablo on April 14 2015 08:10:08 AM MDT
My complete apologies. Sorry I took the bait. Thank you.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: GunBugBit on April 14 2015 09:49:50 AM MDT
I apologize for my part in making it personal.  I run with a rough crowd that speaks their mind, especially on topics such as the one raised here.  Gentility and civility can be had; I'll do my part.
Title: Re: Iran Schools GOP Senators On International Law
Post by: redbaron007 on April 16 2015 08:52:19 AM MDT
There is one who seems to be DU troll on this forum.

Just review their prior post....I'll let the comments speak for themselves. You decide.