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Firearms => 10mm semi-auto handguns => Topic started by: hogslayer on February 22 2015 01:03:11 PM MST

Title: 1911 springs
Post by: hogslayer on February 22 2015 01:03:11 PM MST
What weight recoil springs is/are everyone using on there 1911's in 10 mm?  It is a springfield with 5" barrel.  My normal load is 180 gr lead bullet at about 1200 to 1300  fps.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: DenStinett on February 22 2015 01:24:18 PM MST
I run a single 22lb Wolff in my Delta Gold Cup
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: 10mmfan on February 22 2015 02:16:01 PM MST
20lb in my 5" rock and 18.5 in the kimber only due to I get feeding problems if I go higher.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: hogslayer on February 22 2015 02:19:54 PM MST
I have a 20,22, and 24.  lol could hardly rack the slide with the 24.  Ran the 22 for about 100 rounds have the 20 in now and have not shot it yet.  Guess we will see......
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: sqlbullet on February 22 2015 02:27:06 PM MST
I run an 18.5 recoil with a 25 mainspring and a flat bottom firing pin stop.  This combination has been shown in empirical testing to result in a final slide velocity on par with a 1911 in standard form in 45 acp running 230 ball.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: harleyhopper on March 12 2015 05:13:00 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on February 22 2015 02:27:06 PM MST
I run an 18.5 recoil with a 25 mainspring and a flat bottom firing pin stop.  This combination has been shown in empirical testing to result in a final slide velocity on par with a 1911 in standard form in 45 acp running 230 ball.

I agree that a heavier main spring is the ticket with a lighter recoil. Like 10mmfan, I run a 20# in my Rock and 18.5 in my Eclipse. I run a 25# main in both with flat bottom firing pin stops. Steve
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: dakota1911 on March 18 2015 12:03:20 PM MDT
Still running Colts compound springs in my Delta Gold Cup.  Noticed Wolf suggested a 23? lb on their website so may try that next.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: joshuamalezi on March 27 2015 10:34:54 PM MDT
How much of a difference does the mainspring make? Is there any benefit to having a lighter or heavier mainspring / recoil spring ratio?
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: sqlbullet on March 28 2015 08:30:04 AM MDT
Quote from: joshuamalezi on March 27 2015 10:34:54 PM MDT
How much of a difference does the mainspring make? Is there any benefit to having a lighter or heavier mainspring / recoil spring ratio?

A lighter mainspring is usually need to get a trigger pull below about 3.5 lbs.  However, IMHO a crisp 4lb pull is far better than a gritty 3lb pull, so I think making sure all the mating surfaces are far more important than the spring weight.  Lots of people get focused on the weight as it is easy to quantify and document.  It is NOT the most important consideration.

A heavier mainspring eats up some slide momentum.  It should be combined with a flat bottom firing pin stop.  Between the two you can get a 10mm down to about the same slide velocity/momentum when it reaches its rearward travel as 45 ACP.  The suggested mainspring weight is 25 lbs to acheive this.

While lots of guys here really like a heavy recoil spring in a 1911, I am not among them.  Unlike the Glock, the recoil spring has very little, if any,  influence on the timing of a 1911.   I generally find the standard 18.5 lb spring to be plenty.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: 10mmfan on March 28 2015 10:13:00 AM MDT
I am still debating what springs to use in my 10mm commander
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: zito1553 on March 29 2015 06:26:35 AM MDT
Can anybody please tell me where you order your new springs and flat bottom stop from. I have a new ria 2011 10mm 5in.  Not sure what's in it now...have read they ship with #20 recoil now. Would like to put in heavier main spring and flat bottom firing pin stop.  Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: zito1553 on March 29 2015 06:29:27 AM MDT
Also has a bull barrel
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: Hermit on March 29 2015 07:35:55 AM MDT
brownells has the egw stops and wolf 18 1/2 and 20 pound springs last week when i ordered them for my non railed rock. now the egw stop are quite a bit oversized atleast it was for my rock...my kimber i mainly had to flat top it for the target style sight
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: 10mmfan on March 29 2015 08:00:07 AM MDT
Fusion firearms is where I buy everything.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: zito1553 on March 30 2015 02:37:38 PM MDT
Contacted armscor yesterday and  was told by Arnel bernardo that full size rock 10mm comes factory #20 recoil spring  and #23 main spring. Is that pretty much good to go?   I'm getting brass marks on top rear of ejector port. Anything I can do for that ?
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: sqlbullet on March 30 2015 03:20:26 PM MDT
I used to one of the guys that mixed it up alot.  Now I only change springs when I have issues.  I would say run with 20/23 unless you have a specific issue, and have reliable information that a different spring will correct said issue.
Title: Re: 1911 springs
Post by: harleyhopper on March 30 2015 07:56:48 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on March 30 2015 03:20:26 PM MDT
I used to one of the guys that mixed it up alot.  Now I only change springs when I have issues.  I would say run with 20/23 unless you have a specific issue, and have reliable information that a different spring will correct said issue.

I agree. New to you. Run several boxes through it and see. Most plinking ammo will be fine with that set up. I run the stock 20 recoil but 25 main. I would put the mainspring back to the 23 but I do shoot an ocassional hot load and simply put a 22 recoil in at that time. my Eclipse likes the 18.5/25 set up. Both have the flat bottom firing pin stops.