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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on February 19 2015 03:59:55 PM MST

Title: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 19 2015 03:59:55 PM MST
We had a Glock owner that had a Kaboom with new LAX. I grabbed some to see how it looks. It's all new Starline brass and all of mine weighed 263-267gr's. The case is a nice added bonus:
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Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 19 2015 04:01:34 PM MST
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Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 24 2015 05:35:09 PM MST
10mm LAX (New) 180gr FMJ
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1123, 1106, 1101, 1108, 1089. Average = 1105.4 FPS/ 488 LBS
EAA Super Match 6" 1170, 1150, 1126, 1166, 1146. Average = 1151.6 FPS/ 530 LBS

Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 24 2015 05:50:37 PM MST
This was a retest to see where they were these days (powder shortage/new powders).

10mm Underwood 135gr Nosler
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1503, 1518. Average = 1513 FPS/ 686 LBS
EAA Super Match 6" 1595, 1612. Average = 1603.5 FPS/771 LBS

About 100 FPS off the flap rating. I think I might need to relay the information.

10mm Underwood 200gr Nosler
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1244, 1245. Average = 1244.5 FPS/ 688 LBS
EAA Super Match 6" 1307, 1285. Average = 1296 FPS/ 746 LBS

Doubletap is meeting or exceeding and Underwood isn't? Something is wrong!
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: The_Shadow on February 24 2015 06:29:08 PM MST
Could be that the powder change and or charge weights due to variability of supplies...is he stretching what he has, given the current lack of availability? ???  Both? ???
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Charlie_Zulu on February 24 2015 06:45:35 PM MST
Just rec'd 250 rounds of LAX last week.  Factory New 10mm 180Gr.  Pulled 10 to weigh:

268.8, 268.8, 269.1, 268.5, 268.1, 269.3, 269.1, 268.4, 267.8, 268.2

Once the weather improves will chrono through an Elite Match.
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 25 2015 02:20:22 AM MST
Another Tanfoglio. Welcome!
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: mag360 on February 25 2015 07:21:01 AM MST
When did doubletap ever meet or exceed intercooler??
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 25 2015 08:44:43 AM MST
The last batch I tested. Their 135 was about 1700 FPS.
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: 4949shooter on February 25 2015 02:00:36 PM MST
Word has it the Mike McNett saw the competition from the other ammo companies and stepped his loads up.
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 25 2015 04:21:51 PM MST
It's in here:

http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo/wrapping-up-the-doubletap-10's/

  I had mixed results with some of the rounds before. It still hasn't been bad for me versus David's stock Glock results.

Doubletap currently...

#2 125 Barnes velocity
#1 135 Nosler velocity
#2 155 Gold Dot velocity
#1 155 Barnes velocity

I doubt the 200 and 230 Hardcast have changed and they hit the box rating. I still need to do the 180's and 200's again from them.
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: mag360 on February 25 2015 07:34:17 PM MST
If i just carried those doubletap 200gr hard casts everywhere  do you think id be giving up any stopping power against a 2 legged predator vs say a 180gr or 200gr xtp factory load?
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: Intercooler on February 26 2015 02:44:13 AM MST
   Shoot whatever works in your pistol and you are good with.

  In 10mm I have always liked what I saw in the Underwood 155 Gold Dot or a good 155 all copper.

Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: mag360 on February 26 2015 08:56:53 AM MST
I can shoot a lot of stuff good and my glock eats everything it seems.  Just wondering if Im giving up anything by carrying those 200gr hard casts vs the JHP.
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: The_Shadow on February 26 2015 09:16:04 AM MST
Mag360, for self defense you would be better off with an expanding round, to help prevent the pass through that could injure an innocent bystander. :(  Hunting where you are out in the open or wooded areas that's usually not a problem.
Title: Re: LAX New 10mm and Underwood 135 and 200 Noslers
Post by: mag360 on February 26 2015 10:07:12 AM MST
Yeah it would be for trails or camping.  If it works good on 200lb hogs it should be good for self defense against meth heads.