Hello all,
New to the site, but not new to the 10mm. I own a G20 with a .40 conversion barrel. My question is: I am looking at buying a Kimber TRE/L II (I may be butchering the model) in 10mm, but with the price of 10mm, I want the option to shoot .40. Can I buy a .40 1911 barrel and drop it in like I did with the Glock? If so, who makes a drop in .40 for the 1911 10mm?
How much more is 10mm? I see 10mm in sub $20 range. The .40 must be real cheap. Sell your 10mm brass to reloaders and you might be cheaper.
A drop in 1911 barrel is way less drop-in than a drop-in Glock barrel. There will be some fitting with a 1911 barrel, even a drop-in.
Best option for a novice to fit a barrel is probably a Kart EZ-fit from Brownells.
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/barrel-parts/barrels/1911-auto-easy-fit-barrel-kit-prod7611.aspx
They are about $250.
Personally, I would skip the Kimber, get a RIA for $300 less and use the difference to get started in reloading, or pay a smith in install a 40 barrel.
Quote from: sqlbullet on February 12 2015 06:34:39 AM MST
A drop in 1911 barrel is way less drop-in than a drop-in Glock barrel. There will be some fitting with a 1911 barrel, even a drop-in.
Best option for a novice to fit a barrel is probably a Kart EZ-fit from Brownells.
http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/barrel-parts/barrels/1911-auto-easy-fit-barrel-kit-prod7611.aspx
They are about $250.
Personally, I would skip the Kimber, get a RIA for $300 less and use the difference to get started in reloading, or pay a smith in install a 40 barrel.
+1
AIM Surplus has the Prvi Partisan 10mm for $19.00 a box - that's not bad at all.
The only reason I'd like a .40 barrel is for ammo when I travel. Tough to find 10mm in some towns, and, with 4 kids and a mini-van, sometimes there's not enough room to bring enough ammo. Happened once - visiting my brother in Idaho. No one had 10mm. Had a whole day of shooting my Razorback, and I burned up all my practice ammo in 2 hours. >:D
I've gone away from the Kimber idea after reviewing many different reviews. I live in AK and finding 10mm for less than $32 a box is difficult. Unfortunately we cannot have ammo shipped up here due to UPS ground and carriers refusing to ship. How are the Rock Island guns. I've heard good things, but they look cheap. Can you swap out parts for premium 1911 parts?
Buy a Glock 10 mm and get a .40 conversion.
This way you can shoot cheap .40's. Yet still have 10 mm capability.
Lone Wolfs are drop ins and need no fittings, they also make a .357 Sig conversion.
Colt and Dan Wesson also do factory conversions.
Rock Island's are great value for the money. If you buy a slightly more expensive model, like their TAC Ultra MS, you won't need that many parts upgrades.
(https://us.armscor.com/assets/caches/images/assets/users/products/16686/51994_1911-a1_tac_2011_ms_g10_grip_10mm-450x300.png)
Wolfie: I have a G20 with .40 conversion already. I am just looking to buy a 1911 and was wondering if I could do the same thing to a 1911.
Rock Island is a solid gun. It will accept 1911 parts as well as any other 1911 gun.
But, again, the 1911 is NOT a Glock. No part is ever going to "drop in" to a 1911 without fitting.
Quote from: sqlbullet on February 16 2015 11:55:14 AM MST
Rock Island is a solid gun. It will accept 1911 parts as well as any other 1911 gun.
But, again, the 1911 is NOT a Glock. No part is ever going to "drop in" to a 1911 without fitting.
This is not true of their 10 mm barrel however. (The type of ramp). They do make a 40 barrel and it is a drop-in. Since it's new I'm not sure how easy it is to order from their parts website
In my experience with 1911 guns, when you get a part that drops in and works, that is luck, or, as Sheldon Cooper would say, the coincidence of very large numbers.
Maybe the RIA barrels do drop in with a high success rate. But, any part dropping into a 1911 like a Glock is a rarity that approaches non-existent. No purchase of a 1911 should be made with such an expectation. And when you get one, feel very fortunate.
I just purchased a RIA in 40 and installed one of their 10mm barrels and it was truly a drop in. The dimensions were exactly the same as the 40 barrel the pistol came with.
The barrel from RIA was right at $100 and with the recoil springs and new magazines I have about $200 in the whole project.
I had a 5" RI in 10mm a couple years ago. For the money, it was slick. Killed some stuff with it. I can't remember for the life of me what barrel they put in them. Ramped? Supported? I'm picking up another Friday so I guess I'll know soon enough
Ramped, cone barrel. Ramp is std. But unusual one. Only source is RIA.
Yes supported
Thought about doing a 40 S&W in my Colt Delta but my experience in 1911 land is that when you buy anything that is "drop in" and you drop it in an it works 100% then that is a good day to buy lottery tickets.
Yep. Picked it up Friday. The only thing I don't like about them is that cheesy ass front sight. All in due time...
Quote from: sstewart on February 19 2015 06:14:02 AM MST
Ramped, cone barrel. Ramp is std. But unusual one. Only source is RIA.
Yes, Its reverse pluged heavy barrel with Para/Clark based feed ramp called Para/Clark/Lissner.
Its radiused corner unlike standard Para/Clark, and frame is cut accommodate it
And you can also get a barrel from Infiniti(for like $250!) in this configuration(Heavy barrel, P/C/L ramp in 10mm).
I was told that standard Para/Clark will work with frame cut for P/C/L feed ramp
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff35/kemays/ramped-barrels-3.jpg)
Quote from: vershady on February 12 2015 12:26:43 PM MST
I've gone away from the Kimber idea after reviewing many different reviews. I live in AK and finding 10mm for less than $32 a box is difficult. Unfortunately we cannot have ammo shipped up here due to UPS ground and carriers refusing to ship. How are the Rock Island guns. I've heard good things, but they look cheap. Can you swap out parts for premium 1911 parts?
What? Is that just a local thing, because I get UPS and Fed-Ex ammo shipments all the time. All they need to do is have the ORM-D sticker on the box.
UPS does not Ground ship to Alaska. Neither does FED Ex.
Alaska and Hawaii are both Air Shipped. If you see a "Ground Rate" to Hawaii, that is basically "Slow Boat" cargo ship carrier that can take up to 6 weeks as they wait for the container to become full before putting it on a boat.
As for Ground to Alaska, that would require 2 customs entry points for UPS to handle. Once into Canada, and then back into the US.
You Can Ship USPS Flat Rate Priority Mail service to Alaska and Hawaii, BUT, you can not ship Hazardous Materials in that manner.
Well dang, that would totally suck. Better start reloading.
I have a Kimber TLE 10mm and absolutely love it! I like the RIA guns too, but I am not sorry that I bought the Kimber. Lots of hate these days for Kimber on the net and granted some of it is warranted. But I have had excellent results with all three of my Kimber 1911's, two in .45 and the one in 10mm. They have all been very reliable and very accurate. Can't think of a time when I had one choke in the last ten years. That said, if only Springfield Armory sold a "Loaded" model in 10mm. I love my Kimbers, but actually prefer my Springfields over them.
My Delta Elite is on its way back to me as we speak, after spending some time at the Colt Custom Shop. Among other things, I had a .40 barrel fitted and is coming with one Wilson mag. I expect to use a different recoil spring with it. Don't know, yet, if the .40 barrel will have its own bushing. I loose too much brass shooting action pistol during the summer, and I have close to 5000 rounds of .40 brass, so. . . Brent says it runs like a scalded dog with both 10mm and .40 and is as accurate as all get out, so am anxious for the Fed Ex truck to stop at my house!
To the OP, I would say to get the most out of your .40 barrel, have it fitted by a good gunsmith.
Quote from: Sven on April 10 2015 01:43:17 PM MDT
My Delta Elite is on its way back to me as we speak, after spending some time at the Colt Custom Shop. Among other things, I had a .40 barrel fitted and is coming with one Wilson mag. I expect to use a different recoil spring with it. Don't know, yet, if the .40 barrel will have its own bushing. I loose too much brass shooting action pistol during the summer, and I have close to 5000 rounds of .40 brass, so. . . Brent says it runs like a scalded dog with both 10mm and .40 and is as accurate as all get out, so am anxious for the Fed Ex truck to stop at my house!
To the OP, I would say to get the most out of your .40 barrel, have it fitted by a good gunsmith.
I got a .40 barrel for my ria 10mm 1911 they said no fitting required but it did need minor filing but so far I'm happy with my groupings.