For those interested, like myself, who have never seen one.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=300915315
Ah yes. They don't come often but fine looking piece of hardware. Their price is always better than the 610.
Wow. That's high for used. Very nice looking piece, but it's been molested by a stranger. (just try to keep that in context.....)
Tell me again why we cant get Ruger to make these again? I mean they make a .30 carbine version for god sake!
Now that you mention it, I wonder how many BHs in 30 carbine are sold per year? ;D
I suspect the .30 Carbine is the remainder of a production run. Several available, but no recent tooling. It wouldn't surprise me if they're discontinued soon. I traded off an AMT .30 Carbine years ago. One of the few REALLY stupid things I've done in my life.
Before Ruger will produce a model, there has to be a reasonable market for them. If they're watching and seeing what I see, they won't do it for the 10mm. It would take a Distributor Exclusive run, like they did before. Even then, the distributor would have to see the market. Davidson's and others have exclusives now, but in more popular calibers. Davidson's has a run of Super's and Bisleys in .41M, but showing OOS. Probably a good thing (for me, 'cuz that Bisley is purdy).
Also, since the 10mm was never offered by Ruger as a regular production item, Davidson's may own the rights to it. Meaning, only Davidson's can do it. Get a couple thousand friends together to commit, and Davidson's might do a run for you.
How many local production 10mm's are currently available? That should be an indicator of the market, and I'm sure Ruger sees it, too. Not that it wouldn't be a good idea, but they are in the business to make money.
Nothing wrong with a 30 carbine, I've got an Inland I've had for over forty years.
As most know, Ruger halted orders for a brief period this year to catch up on production so I doubt their interest in a low volume seller is above nil. Maybe after the election when buying slows down, some companies might look at a 'niche market' firearm in a different light.
I tried an internet search once for firearm sales by caliber.........never found anything definite, at the best the government had some figures that only broke it down in x to y and y to z (calibers) type numbers. Nothing I could find was anywhere near caliber specific by sales.
I'd think SA revolvers are already a small market share without getting into projected sales of a SA 10mm revolver. Perhaps a smaller company like Charter Arms might take a chance on a DA 10mm Bulldog. But, a lot of people don't seem to think much of Charter Arm's products. Personally, I don't see much chance of any new model 10mm by any company in the near future.
They already offer convertibles in 9mm and .45acp. You would think that with the huge popularity of the .40s&w they would fill the gap with a .38-40/.40s&w or 10mm/.40s&w. Even if they didn't offer a 10mm cylinder it would be no big trick to get a second .40 cylinder and have it reamed out. Its not likely to happen I know but we can still dream.
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Re: Ruger Blackhawk 'Buckeye'
Quote from: DM1906 on August 20 2012 02:07:19 PM MDT
I suspect the .30 Carbine is the remainder of a production run. Several available, but no recent tooling. It wouldn't surprise me if they're discontinued soon. I traded off an AMT .30 Carbine years ago. One of the few REALLY stupid things I've done in my life.
Before Ruger will produce a model, there has to be a reasonable market for them. If they're watching and seeing what I see, they won't do it for the 10mm. It would take a Distributor Exclusive run, like they did before. Even then, the distributor would have to see the market. Davidson's and others have exclusives now, but in more popular calibers. Davidson's has a run of Super's and Bisleys in .41M, but showing OOS. Probably a good thing (for me, 'cuz that Bisley is purdy).
Also, since the 10mm was never offered by Ruger as a regular production item, Davidson's may own the rights to it. Meaning, only Davidson's can do it. Get a couple thousand friends together to commit, and Davidson's might do a run for you.
How many local production 10mm's are currently available? That should be an indicator of the market, and I'm sure Ruger sees it, too. Not that it wouldn't be a good idea, but they are in the business to make money.
Ruger still runs the 30 carbine probably about twice a year pending dealer orders.
It took me about 6 months before I was able to find but but that was about a year ago.
Recently, Gallery of Guns had over a dozen in inventory. Ruger has made them for over 20 years, perhaps a bit longer.
Quote from: 505Gibbs on September 09 2012 12:40:00 PM MDT
Quote from: DM1906 on August 20 2012 02:07:19 PM MDT
I suspect the .30 Carbine is the remainder of a production run. Several available, but no recent tooling. It wouldn't surprise me if they're discontinued soon. I traded off an AMT .30 Carbine years ago. One of the few REALLY stupid things I've done in my life.
Before Ruger will produce a model, there has to be a reasonable market for them. If they're watching and seeing what I see, they won't do it for the 10mm. It would take a Distributor Exclusive run, like they did before. Even then, the distributor would have to see the market. Davidson's and others have exclusives now, but in more popular calibers. Davidson's has a run of Super's and Bisleys in .41M, but showing OOS. Probably a good thing (for me, 'cuz that Bisley is purdy).
Also, since the 10mm was never offered by Ruger as a regular production item, Davidson's may own the rights to it. Meaning, only Davidson's can do it. Get a couple thousand friends together to commit, and Davidson's might do a run for you.
How many local production 10mm's are currently available? That should be an indicator of the market, and I'm sure Ruger sees it, too. Not that it wouldn't be a good idea, but they are in the business to make money.
Ruger still runs the 30 carbine probably about twice a year pending dealer orders.
It took me about 6 months before I was able to find but but that was about a year ago.
Recently, Gallery of Guns had over a dozen in inventory. Ruger has made them for over 20 years, perhaps a bit longer.
You're referring to the "Mini-.30", correct? They are very popular, and always have been. I was referring to the AMT .30 carbine auto pistol, and the Ruger 10mm revolver (Buckeye Special), separately. Ruger never produced a .30 carbine handgun that I'm aware of.
I was referring to the Blackhawk in 30 Carbine. I think it's still offered.
http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkBlued/specSheets/0505.html
They definitely produced it. I have a friend with one that goes with his M1 carbines. Nifty handgun. Makes quite the boom when you shoot it.
Yeah, I'd heard they were loud. :D Never known anyone that owned one, myself.
Quote from: EdMc on September 10 2012 05:38:57 AM MDT
I was referring to the Blackhawk in 30 Carbine. I think it's still offered.
http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkBlued/specSheets/0505.html (http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkBlued/specSheets/0505.html)
Gotcha. I misstated above. Meant to say AUTO handgun, like the AMT.
No, too pricey for me but I have a question about the turn line on the 38/40 cylinder. What would make the bolt make the turn line that wide between only two chambers? Also looks like welding splatter at the upper part of the trigger.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=305838208
Quote from: EdMc on September 18 2012 02:31:07 PM MDT
No, too pricey for me but I have a question about the turn line on the 38/40 cylinder. What would make the bolt make the turn line that wide between only two chambers? Also looks like welding splatter at the upper part of the trigger.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=305838208 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=305838208)
Yeah. Overpriced, overestimated, but interesting. The trigger does look curious. Could be grease, lighting and/or repair damage. The cylinder turn marks are typical for an "abused" Ruger revolver. The cylinder latch will cause that if it is spun (a lot, like in the movies) and the gate is used to stop it, or the latch spring is fouled/bent. Unless there's something else wrong, the latch is likely worn out. The 10mm cylinder has been turned, and looks to have at least a few rounds through it. It's certainly NOT 98%.
Show me a Ruger that has been used at all and I''ll show you drag marks. That does not necessarily mean abuse. They are not designed the same as Colts.
Naturally the Blued guns make it look worse.
Just a sampling
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I have several revolvers and all have turn lines/ drag marks to varying degrees but they're all pretty much consistent in width. This example looked like the norm then is twice or more as wide in one area. Perhaps not uncommon but I've not seen that very often.
Quote from: EdMc on September 18 2012 08:11:11 PM MDT
This example looked like the norm then is twice or more as wide in one area. Perhaps not uncommon but I've not seen that very often.
I apologize :-*. I did not catch that. :-[
"I apologize :-*. I did not catch that. :-["
Not necessary :D........btw, nice collection of SAs in your photo.
i recently acquired a buckeye 38-40 10mm. the finish is ultra nice but the really nice thing is how accurate these things are. I recently got back into revolvers and had forgotten what a pleasure they are to shoot. I took it out to the range to adjust the sights. benched it off of my range bag at 12 yards. first shot dead center...no big deal. Next shot dead through the first and the next shot same thing. I kept turning to my shooting buddy to make sure he was seeing the same thing i was. My grin kept getting wider. Now of course i began to loose it as i i was trying to make it happen instead of letting it happen. next shot a little high to the left about 1/4 to 1/2 inch but the last two clovered. I wish i could shot like that free hand standing....not only with the buckeye but with the g20. My teeth are still hurting from the perma grin. Dam they are nice. did a poot boy trigger job and the already respectable trigger became uber nice.
I've recently trade for a ruger blackhawk buckeye chambered in the 10mm/38-40 conversion. The looks brand new,no powder,holster,or handling marks at all. Its mint,and has the original black and yellow box. Was kinda wanting to know its value,have talked with other people to gather a ballpark. Thanks
Quote from: rugerfan on December 03 2012 07:08:52 PM MST
I've recently trade for a ruger blackhawk buckeye chambered in the 10mm/38-40 conversion. The looks brand new,no powder,holster,or handling marks at all. Its mint,and has the original black and yellow box. Was kinda wanting to know its value,have talked with other people to gather a ballpark. Thanks
Like new, $650-800. New, with the box and all original accompanying material, $800-1200. Used, depends on condition, like any other Ruger. A matching serial # pair (with the .32HRM/.32-20), $2000+, depending on condition.
http://www.firearmspriceguide.com/guns/search/ruger/20
ball park figure.
another interesting bit of info
http://nordicg3k.tripod.com/website/id67.html
well since i was last here i acquired another buckeye. now that i have gotten into revolvers so much and this gun ban talk i am going to strictly revolvers and lever guns. I know Don't Flame me but i am tired of the crap and i find that shooting revolvers and lever guns a heck of allot more fun than my semi auto's. that being said i am going to part with my two ruger buckeyes to afford a couple of gp100's to add to my safe. I hate to do it as these things are uber sweet but i want to consolidate calibers.
its a sad day in mudville.
Sure is easier to chase the brass flung by a revolver :P