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Firearms => 10mm revolvers => Topic started by: saleen322 on December 26 2014 04:46:11 PM MST

Title: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: saleen322 on December 26 2014 04:46:11 PM MST
I recently got what was advertised as a NIB Ruger. It may have been shot but it couldn't have been much. The bluing was perfect and I could not see rotation marks on the cylinders. It shot good but not great in my opinion, averaging just over 3" @ 25 yards off a sandbag. Checking the cylinders I saw they were undersized on the throats but no local 'smith had a reamer for a 10mm.  I called Ruger and explained that I am not the original owner but clearly this was a manufacturing issue. Ruger looked it over but just returned it without repair stating they had no parts. Ruger did give me a new manual, some decals, etc. I called Dave Manson and bought a reamer and they even let me select the pilot size without any extra charge. These cylinders were hands down the tightest ones I ever reamed. I took my time and it really paid off. I can shoot standing 25 yard groups now that are smaller than it would do off a sandbag before (see standing target below). I am very happy with it and it is clearly a keeper.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt98/saleen322/Center%20Fire%20Pistol/Ruger10-3A_zpsd2f5a084.jpg) (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt98/saleen322/Center%20Fire%20Pistol/Ruger%2010mm/Ruger10mmTgt-1_zpsb025682f.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: gandog56 on December 26 2014 05:06:16 PM MST
I wish you guys would quit talking about your 10mm revolvers.

I'm SO jealous!  >:(
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: Denver1911 on December 28 2014 03:45:30 PM MST
There are two of these on Gunbroker right now.  I actually just left there to come here and post asking someone to help talk me down.  I have a GUncrafter Industries No Name longslide on the way ... my first 10.  I thought I'd pick up something less expensive to shoot my first 10mm reloads out of before the Gi was finished.  I saw these on GB and was enamored.  So ... SOMEBODY TALK ME OUT OF THIS! ... or not.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: saleen322 on December 29 2014 07:00:06 AM MST
I have Ruger center-fires in 32 HR mag, 327 mag, 9mm-357, 10mm-38/40, 44 mag, and 45 Colt. While I like them all, the 10mm is a favorite with it, the 9m and 327 getting the most use. The other thing it is strong. I was carefully bringing up the velocity with some handloads until it began to show signs of pressure. When it went above 900 ft/lbs with still no signs of pressure, I quit there as the accuracy was falling off. My standard 200 cast lead load @ around 1150 is no problem. Any sane load will work well in a 10mm Blackhawk. YMMV.

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt98/saleen322/Center%20Fire%20Pistol/SingleActionCenterfire3-A_zps8aa5d9f5.jpg)
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: Denver1911 on December 29 2014 07:57:15 AM MST
Nice show!

My wife has a Lipsey's flattop in 45 ACP/Colt convertible.

I may just had to have one of my own.

Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: MCQUADE on January 02 2015 05:57:09 PM MST
My old shooter buckeye special is the most accurate single action I own, followed closely by my 44 specials. Dont forget to try out the 38-40 cylinder. It can handle the original loading that battered Colt's to pieces. There is a member here that has developed some phenomenal Ruger only loads that will impress you (understatement) :o
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: saleen322 on January 04 2015 08:49:35 PM MST
I hear ya brother! The 10mm is not too shabby either @ 922 ft/lbs.  ;D

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Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: Pumpkinheaver on April 28 2015 09:31:26 PM MDT
My buddy has the same revolver. It shoots decently but not great.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: 1911baker on July 11 2015 07:11:38 PM MDT
I had a Buckeye about a year ago and didn't want to ream the chambers out for 38-40 so I shot some 10 mm out of it before trading it for a Henry Big Boy 45 Colt.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: DM1906 on July 11 2015 09:28:16 PM MDT
Quote from: 1911baker on July 11 2015 07:11:38 PM MDT
I had a Buckeye about a year ago and didn't want to ream the chambers out for 38-40 so I shot some 10 mm out of it before trading it for a Henry Big Boy 45 Colt.

Ream the chambers? Both cylinders, 10mm and .38-40, are included with the Buckeye Special, originally.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: 1911baker on July 12 2015 08:27:16 AM MDT
Quote from: DM1906 on July 11 2015 09:28:16 PM MDT
Quote from: 1911baker on July 11 2015 07:11:38 PM MDT
I had a Buckeye about a year ago and didn't want to ream the chambers out for 38-40 so I shot some 10 mm out of it before trading it for a Henry Big Boy 45 Colt.

Ream the chambers? Both cylinders, 10mm and .38-40, are included with the Buckeye Special, originally.
I know that! Both cylinders were included with mine but I bought it to shoot 38/40!
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: DM1906 on July 12 2015 09:59:32 AM MDT
Quote from: 1911baker on July 12 2015 08:27:16 AM MDT
Quote from: DM1906 on July 11 2015 09:28:16 PM MDT
Quote from: 1911baker on July 11 2015 07:11:38 PM MDT
I had a Buckeye about a year ago and didn't want to ream the chambers out for 38-40 so I shot some 10 mm out of it before trading it for a Henry Big Boy 45 Colt.

Ream the chambers? Both cylinders, 10mm and .38-40, are included with the Buckeye Special, originally.
I know that! Both cylinders were included with mine but I bought it to shoot 38/40!

Just curious. If you bought it to shoot .38-40, why didn't you?

Nice catch on that Henry!
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: 1911baker on July 16 2015 08:21:27 PM MDT
I couldn't shoot my reloads through it .....chambers were too tight. At the time factory 38-40 rounds were around 90.00 per box. A .401 cast bullet wouldn't drop through any of the chambers!
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: SagSlim59 on July 17 2015 08:00:26 AM MDT
Speaking of the Ruger 38-40/10mm, guns America just had one posted for $1290.  :o.   And it sold.    Really?
Does that sound crazy?
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: Captain O on September 02 2015 08:42:35 PM MDT
Quote from: SagSlim59 on July 17 2015 08:00:26 AM MDT
Speaking of the Ruger 38-40/10mm, guns America just had one posted for $1290.  :o.   And it sold.    Really?
Does that sound crazy?

Yep, that's nuttier than squirrel s#it!
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: dakota1911 on December 22 2015 09:42:28 AM MST
I have been looking at these for a year or so at online sites.  Notice the prices on them are climbing.  I keep hoping one of the distributors will decide to pay Ruger to do a 40S&W/10mm convertible Blackhawk.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: Captain O on December 22 2015 10:02:15 AM MST
It would pay Ruger to do this, as the market is ripe for it. A minimum of 5.5" of barrel would be right for the beast.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: DM1906 on December 22 2015 12:07:24 PM MST
I have a few thousand rounds through mine, mostly .38-40's (.44M power level). Lots of 10mm, too. I shoot .40SW through it, as well. I wouldn't want it shorter than the 6.5" barrel. I have autos that size.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: Captain O on December 22 2015 05:56:18 PM MST
Could you imagine how a 6.5" Ruger in .38-40/10mm would perform in the field? I could see how a tight b/c gap would mimic, or exceed, the performance of a S&W Model 610.

If someone mounted a 10" .40 caliber barrel on a Ruger Super Redhawk frame and timed a 10mm Magnum-chambered cylinder for the piece, it could prove a formidable hunting piece. Imagine shooting .40 S&W, 10mm Auto and 10mm Magnum from a heavy-framed revolver, shooting a 220 grain Hard Cast bullets travelling between 1450-1500 fps, should handily "kick the slats' out of any medium-sized game. (This load should generate between 1027-1099 fpe).

Works for me!
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: DM1906 on December 23 2015 10:54:33 AM MST
Quote from: Captain O on December 22 2015 05:56:18 PM MST
Could you imagine how a 6.5" Ruger in .38-40/10mm would perform in the field? I could see how a tight b/c gap would mimic, or exceed, the performance of a S&W Model 610.

If someone mounted a 10" .40 caliber barrel on a Ruger Super Redhawk frame and timed a 10mm Magnum-chambered cylinder for the piece, it could prove a formidable hunting piece. Imagine shooting .40 S&W, 10mm Auto and 10mm Magnum from a heavy-framed revolver, shooting a 220 grain Hard Cast bullets travelling between 1450-1500 fps, should handily "kick the slats' out of any medium-sized game. (This load should generate between 1027-1099 fpe).

Works for me!

Mimic or exceed? Sure. 155 gr. @ 1900+FPS is pretty close.

Actually, it "mimics" .44M energy levels, with a greater SD, from a shorter barrel (almost 2" shorter). That translates to a higher Taylor KO factor than .44M with similar bullet weights. The 10mm Magnum doesn't come close. I like the Super RedHawk idea, but not chambered in 10mm Mag. The SW 610 isn't in the same category, and may not even be able to get there. It may be a practical option for someone, but I'm just not interested. Perhaps with a levergun to go with the LAR (one of a few long action pistols), but with .45 WinMag available, it doesn't offer anything more than a uniqueness appeal, to me anyway. If we're going down that road, a .460SWM levergun might peak my attention. Too many irons in the fire as it is, so I'll just shelf that idea, for now.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: sqlbullet on December 23 2015 11:22:03 AM MST
Yeah...I was going to say, in a Revolver the 460 Rowland will deliver a 300 grain bullet at 1350 fps from the muzzle of a 5.5" revolver.
Title: Re: Ruger 10mm 38-40 Revolver
Post by: gandog56 on January 28 2016 06:43:09 PM MST
Quote from: Captain O on December 22 2015 05:56:18 PM MST
Could you imagine how a 6.5" Ruger in .38-40/10mm would perform in the field? I could see how a tight b/c gap would mimic, or exceed, the performance of a S&W Model 610.



Well, how about the 16" of my Mechtech CCU in 10mm?