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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on December 08 2014 03:47:05 AM MST

Title: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Intercooler on December 08 2014 03:47:05 AM MST
   This looks like a new one that isn't in stock anywhere.

http://gunsmagazine.com/liberty-ammunition-introduces-10mm-auto-into-its-civil-defense-lineup/
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: halfglocked on December 25 2014 07:20:20 PM MST
That's pretty impressive, I have a advertisement in a February 2014 Combat Handgun magazine , do you think you'll do a review on them anytime soon ? It would really interesting to see how they chrono,
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: 4949shooter on January 01 2015 07:56:36 AM MST
These might make a nice varmint round.

I would like to see how they perform on a chrono and in gel.
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: The_Shadow on January 01 2015 03:58:36 PM MST
The only way i see these as being viable are in very close quarters, up close and personal.  The reason I say this is they will dump their energy very fast and distance will not be friendly to accuracy or ballistic potential.   ::)
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: wadcutter on January 02 2015 09:33:45 AM MST
Quote from: The_Shadow on January 01 2015 03:58:36 PM MST
The only way i see these as being viable are in very close quarters, up close and personal.  The reason I say this is they will dump their energy very fast and distance will not be friendly to accuracy or ballistic potential.   ::)

That's what I was thinking, a 60 grain 40 caliber bullet  has the BC of a brick. It probably loses half it's energy after 10 yards. This is the same reason I gave up on the idea of 1500 fps wadcutters in .357. It sounds good in theory but in reality not so much.
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Intercooler on February 16 2015 03:33:25 PM MST
 Got a box to see.

(https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10392422_833617093342991_6036455725021300526_n.jpg?oh=923be4ec76ce456a44b75fb22726768e&oe=5596E55A)
(https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11008387_833617113342989_1978965332242961251_n.jpg?oh=88705b0faa8580840d70602ee0892384&oe=5553C3F5)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1374979_833617133342987_2521466156472598811_n.jpg?oh=4cbcc5b6cdb8ec32756abd8a0a9c2294&oe=558FCF5E&__gda__=1431771150_936d311c9598396abe16aa7134b3e26d)
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Centimeter on February 16 2015 05:56:04 PM MST
Interesting concept... I have to imagine that the energy as a wounding mechanism should be pretty substantial but I'm curious to see how shallow the penetration is. Hitting like a ton of bricks is only so effective if all of it is depleted in the first three or four inches. Has Raggedyman tested these for penetration yet (or are there plans to do so)?
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Intercooler on February 16 2015 06:09:50 PM MST
Not yet, but sending them over.
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Centimeter on February 16 2015 06:19:30 PM MST
Sweet. I'm looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: The_Shadow on February 16 2015 06:39:22 PM MST
Interesting rounds...but oh so light! ???
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Intercooler on February 16 2015 06:47:53 PM MST
I wonder what barrel length for the 2400 FPS rating? I might see 2600 FPS out of the 6".
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: The_Shadow on February 16 2015 08:54:12 PM MST
We will have to see when you get some breaks in weather... 8)
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Intercooler on February 24 2015 05:18:46 PM MST
The Liberty 10mm was a smoker!

10mm Liberty 60gr LFHP
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 2508, 2515. Average = 2511.5 FPS/ 840 LBS
EAA Super Match 6" 2593, 2599. Average = 2596 FPS/ 898 LBS

Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: The_Shadow on February 24 2015 06:26:10 PM MST
Screaming lightweight!  8)
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: 4949shooter on February 24 2015 07:08:45 PM MST
Wowzer  :o
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Centimeter on February 25 2015 05:50:59 PM MST
Phew, that's moving right along! :o Can't wait for the gel tests on these nasty little things. How much were they, by the way? Marketing and packaging seems like it might add up quite a bit on these.
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Intercooler on February 26 2015 02:39:30 AM MST
 I think I got them on sale for about $20.
Title: Re: Liberty Civil Defense 60gr 2400 FPS
Post by: Dave84 on February 28 2015 07:53:37 PM MST
If its a fragmenting round where the solid core continues deeply it should be quite effective.