Hello everyone I'm at a crossroad in witch way to go shude I get a fusion fully custom or RIA ..that at the end of the day it won't hold its value in the long term. ..
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Quote from: g929 on November 08 2014 06:43:46 PM MST
Hello everyone I'm at a crossroad in witch way to go should I get a fusion fully custom or RIA ..that at the end of the day it won't hold its value in the long term. ..
Huh ?? I've got 5 1911 styled 10mm including an RIA and a 10mm Fusion Scout. Those two guns are miles apart in every way, price and availability for starters. As far as value I would think both would hold around 80%+ depending on several factors.
Big big difference between the two. My RIA cost me like 550 bucks brands new. My Fusion Firearms long slide cost me a LOT more. I shoot the RIA as a general 10mm practice gun to save wear and tear on the more expensive Fusion and Dan Wesson 10mm's I own, and shoot the Fusion and Wesson for accuracy.
I do love the 1911 platform, don't I. If I could find a deal on a Delta Elite........... ;)
Yeah...This is kinda like asking if you should get a Hyundai Veloster or a Lamborghini. I don't even know how to respond really.
RIA is a solid gun for he money. Stacks up very well against any other mass-produced 1911 in 10mm (read Kimber/Colt).
The Fusion is art and steel, hand made from beginning to end. and at least 3X maybe 4X the price. It will outperform the RIA in every way except smiles/dollar.
Your comparing a Kia Soul to a Corvette Z06. The RIA will get the job done every day, but will not win any stoplight drag races. The Fusion will win the Stoplight Drag Races, but do you want it sitting in an Evidence locker waiting for your acquittal?
Well guys thanks all for responding but I'm juet looking for a gun that can stay in my family for years and I know fusion is worth every penny and the reviews ria is a verry good entry level gun
But is getting a ria and put higher quality parts makes a deffrens....
Quote from: g929 on November 11 2014 04:30:19 PM MST
Well guys thanks all for responding but I'm juet looking for a gun that can stay in my family for years and I know fusion is worth every penny and the reviews ria is a verry good entry level gun
But is getting a ria and put higher quality parts makes a deffrens....
Now that's an interesting take ;D, I've done just that. I bought a RIA 10mm a year or so back, refitted the slide to the frame, polished the mating rail surfaces, sent it to Alchemy Arms Rob, flush cut, polished the feed ramp and did a reverse crown. When I got it back I milled off the roll marks, cleaned up all the sharp edges and sent it for melonite (just the slide and frame). On the return from finishing, I put a 3.5lb C&S ignition kit in, Wolff springs and stoned the detail parts (most of this stuff I had in my parts box, Dawson, Wilson, this and that). I'm sure there's something I left out :) but it was a fun little project. The gun shoots as good as my TRS 1.5" guarantee :)
(http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/seroberts1/AD2X_0005_zps91b9673d.jpg) (http://s499.photobucket.com/user/seroberts1/media/AD2X_0005_zps91b9673d.jpg.html)
Quote from: DeltaSteve on November 11 2014 06:37:22 PM MST
Quote from: g929 on November 11 2014 04:30:19 PM MST
Well guys thanks all for responding but I'm juet looking for a gun that can stay in my family for years and I know fusion is worth every penny and the reviews ria is a verry good entry level gun
But is getting a ria and put higher quality parts makes a deffrens....
Now that's an interesting take ;D, I've done just that. I bought a RIA 10mm a year or so back, refitted the slide to the frame, polished the mating rail surfaces, sent it to Alchemy Arms Rob, flush cut, polished the feed ramp and did a reverse crown. When I got it back I milled off the roll marks, cleaned up all the sharp edges and sent it for melonite (just the slide and frame). On the return from finishing, I put a 3.5lb C&S ignition kit in, Wolff springs and stoned the detail parts (most of this stuff I had in my parts box, Dawson, Wilson, this and that). I'm sure there's something I left out :) but it was a fun little project. The gun shoots as good as my TRS 1.5" guarantee :)
(http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/seroberts1/AD2X_0005_zps91b9673d.jpg) (http://s499.photobucket.com/user/seroberts1/media/AD2X_0005_zps91b9673d.jpg.html)
Well that's more like it I love the way a fusion looks and been hand made is a plus for me...but I need to confess I never shot a 10mm before but I just love the round and the 1911 plat form...like your gun verry much hope you are enjoying it
I have been having the same debate, getting a ria commander and improving it for carry or fusion longslide to shoot a couple times a year and pass down in the family, I am young so hopefully I have time for the latter.
People forget that RIA has been a contract parts supplier of 1911's since not long after WWII. They are very well built right out of the box. It is a gun that is meant to be used and abused. There is no reason an RIA can't be a hand down to the next generation. It isn't going to disintegrate as it gets older. It isn't Cinderella's Coachman and won't turn into a mouse at Midnight.
The same with the Fusion. I really don't see Fusion as being a company that builds guns to be Wall Hangers. With Fusion you get the fine touches, the hands on tuning that you don't get with the RIA, that is the extra you pay for the Fusion. Both are REALLY nice guns. Both will hold their value, and depending on use, could even appreciate in Value.
Right now, RIA is being touted as an Entry Level 1911 only because of its lower pricing. There is NOTHING Entry Level about the gun. I would Gladly pit my RIA against a Fusion of the same configuration any day of the week.
Where Fusion gets my Money is when it comes time for a Long Slide dedicated Hunter/Bullseye gun. RIA does not have a factory Longslide model. So instead, I am saving up to buy a Fusion Long Slide and Barrel assembly to put on my RIA :D
Quote from: DeltaSteve on November 11 2014 06:37:22 PM MST
Quote from: g929 on November 11 2014 04:30:19 PM MST
Well guys thanks all for responding but I'm juet looking for a gun that can stay in my family for years and I know fusion is worth every penny and the reviews ria is a verry good entry level gun
But is getting a ria and put higher quality parts makes a deffrens....
Now that's an interesting take ;D, I've done just that. I bought a RIA 10mm a year or so back, refitted the slide to the frame, polished the mating rail surfaces, sent it to Alchemy Arms Rob, flush cut, polished the feed ramp and did a reverse crown. When I got it back I milled off the roll marks, cleaned up all the sharp edges and sent it for melonite (just the slide and frame). On the return from finishing, I put a 3.5lb C&S ignition kit in, Wolff springs and stoned the detail parts (most of this stuff I had in my parts box, Dawson, Wilson, this and that). I'm sure there's something I left out :) but it was a fun little project. The gun shoots as good as my TRS 1.5" guarantee :)
(http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/seroberts1/AD2X_0005_zps91b9673d.jpg) (http://s499.photobucket.com/user/seroberts1/media/AD2X_0005_zps91b9673d.jpg.html)
I did none of that, and the only problem I have run into so far is it didn't like one third party magazine. Fortunately I only had one of that make. Using all my other mags, I have yet to have a failure to anything in my RIA.
I bought the full size Tactical 10 mm last year for around $600 new. I took it out and ran my reloads thru it.....about 250 rounds. My reloads are AA#9 with a 180g bullet at about 1150 fps....not max but cycles the slides on everything I have and an accurate load. I didn't have a single malfunction....accurate as anything else I shoot if not more so. Fit and finish were great. Great features for the money and definitely worth the money of more expensive platforms. The only thing I did was swap the grips for something easier on the hands. I'm looking to get a Commander in 10mm without the rail from RIA because mine works so well....
Don't let the naysayers influence your opinion unless they've actually owned one and shot it......there are plenty of old guard factory guys who think all good guns have to come from the same manufacturers and anyone elses product should be avoided. I bought one...I like it better than some of my $1200 guns....I'd buy another.....
I mean it pretty much comes down to what can you afford to pay? Either choice works.