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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on October 16 2014 07:41:42 PM MDT

Title: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Unknown 180 JHP and Federal
Post by: Intercooler on October 16 2014 07:41:42 PM MDT
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Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: Pinsnscrews on October 16 2014 08:03:27 PM MDT
What cave did you find those Frontier Cartridges in LOL

Look forward to your review and info.
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: The_Shadow on October 16 2014 08:33:12 PM MDT
Justice 180 FMJ are reman's
Remington are subsonic
Hornady Look to see if there is any markings like (PROOF LOADs)  I hope they are just sealed primers.
Last but not least FEDERAL  the SPL raises a concern (special loads) ?  ???
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: Intercooler on October 17 2014 04:04:59 AM MDT
    I plan on putting these in the next package and send them all to you Monday. I think I will wait to see what you find in the pull-downs before running them next weekend  ;)
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: The_Shadow on October 17 2014 07:25:16 AM MDT
IC that sounds good, I know at one time Hornady did make some proof loads but usually the box was clearly marked as such.
The Federal with the SPL is intriguing, I would wonder if they were part of some contract ammo that they turned loose to the public sales.   ???
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: redbaron007 on October 17 2014 09:01:04 AM MDT
The Federal looks very similar to some 357sig loads I bought a few years ago at a gun show, $14/bx 50. IIRC, they too had the 'SPL' designation. At first I thought they may be a 9x25, but they weren't. A buddy of mine fired them first through his G31; then I let'm rip through my G32. At the time I was shooting some Georgia Arms Canned Heat; so my comparison is they were hotter than the Canned Heat, but didn't reel excessive. They did throw a flame.  :D
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: The_Shadow on October 17 2014 02:58:57 PM MDT

Lucky Gunner website
http://www.luckygunner.com/10mm-auto-180-gr-fmj-federal-xm10-1000-round (http://www.luckygunner.com/10mm-auto-180-gr-fmj-federal-xm10-1000-round)
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This government contract overrun manufactured by Federal has been made available to the public. This ammo provides the performance you would expect from Federal and it is available at a competitive price making it ideal for range training to help lower your cost of shooting what is generally a more expensive caliber.

This product is brand new, brass-cased, boxer-primed, non-corrosive, and reloadable. It is a staple range and target practice ammunition.

This is top of the line, American-made range ammo made by ATK (same company that makes Speer Lawman, CCI, Blazer Brass, etc) - it doesn't get any better.

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Muzzle Velocity (fps)   1030
Muzzle Energy (ft lbs)   425
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: Intercooler on October 17 2014 05:07:15 PM MDT
They all seem okay then. I will run them all Monday!
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: 4949shooter on October 18 2014 06:18:30 AM MDT
Looking forward to the results. I ran into an armourer who had another version of the FBI hollowpoint, a 180 grain version which was different than the 190 grain version I had. Said he got them from an older FBI agent who still has some left in stock.

Anyway, he claimed 1275 + fps velocity from them. I shot a mag out of his Kimber and I don't think so. They didn't feel weak, but nothing even close to what we are used to from Underwood or PBR.
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: 4949shooter on October 18 2014 06:29:54 AM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on October 17 2014 02:58:57 PM MDT

Lucky Gunner website
http://www.luckygunner.com/10mm-auto-180-gr-fmj-federal-xm10-1000-round (http://www.luckygunner.com/10mm-auto-180-gr-fmj-federal-xm10-1000-round)
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This government contract overrun manufactured by Federal has been made available to the public. This ammo provides the performance you would expect from Federal and it is available at a competitive price making it ideal for range training to help lower your cost of shooting what is generally a more expensive caliber.

This product is brand new, brass-cased, boxer-primed, non-corrosive, and reloadable. It is a staple range and target practice ammunition.

This is top of the line, American-made range ammo made by ATK (same company that makes Speer Lawman, CCI, Blazer Brass, etc) - it doesn't get any better.

(http://cdn5.luckygunner.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/2da9827f2ca8fee3e7f2af19d95a1b6e/1/0/10mm180fmjfederalxm10-50-2_1.jpg)

Muzzle Velocity (fps)   1030
Muzzle Energy (ft lbs)   425

So...ATK is still currently manufacturing this ammo for the FBI?
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: Intercooler on October 20 2014 04:23:49 PM MDT
Remington 180gr JHP
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 981, 982, 980, 982, 992. Average = 983.4 FPS/ 387 LBS

Justice 180gr FMJ
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 868, 872, 914, 883, 854. Average = 878.2 FPS/ 308 LBS This one is fighting for the lowest ever!

Unknown 180gr JHP
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1172, 1191, 1194, 1177, 1195. Average = 1185.5 FPS/ 531 LBS

Federal XM10 180gr FMJ
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1074, 1067, 1071, 1060, 1068. Average = 1068 FPS/ 456 LBS

Federal Trophy Bond 180gr JSP
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1265, 1273. Average = 1270.5 FPS/ 645 LBS   Another good retest.
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Hornady 170 JHP and Federal
Post by: Intercooler on October 20 2014 04:38:52 PM MDT
Last Federal TB test was 1279 FPS  8) I always feel good when I get close to the old and new MFG's ratings.
Title: Re: Four new ones. Justice 180 FMJ, Remington 180 JHP, Unknown 180 JHP and Federal
Post by: Intercooler on October 24 2014 04:09:53 AM MDT
I changed the Hornady results to Unknown. These don't appear to be what was in the package and another batch will be sent to me. Still interesting data!