http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/magsafe-personal-defense-10mm-defender-96-grain-10-rounds?a=1596254
This one hasn't been done yet, so I lumped them in with my order. The gel testing of both of these will be interesting! I think I will see if Raggedyman wants a couple extra to test the "drywall theory".
I thought about picking up some of these for pest (coyote) control around the homestead. Will be interested to see the velocity and gel results.
46gr at 2400fps?!? Running it though a muzzle energy calc it says 588ftlbs :o I wonder what it does out of a 6in barrel? I bet it will penetrate even less out of the longer tube....
The 96 grain load is 690 ft/lbs!
Sounds like these would make horrible wounds but prolly not go to far into something meaty....I really will be interested in the gel tests aswell.... im guessing it will look horrific though.
Yeah..Shred the skin and muscle, not much else.
I changed this one up! I didn't realize I put the 9mm Swat version in my cart :o
Here is the Defender 96gr which looks to use DoubleTap brass.
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Looks like a conventional hollowpoint from here.
I didn't see the 10mm version:
From what im seeing the .40 version only had 7in's of penetration!? :o quite explosive though.... I wonder if it will penetrate farther, or less in 10mm? Either way I imagine it will be explosive.... should be neat to see!
That is some serious cavitation. I agree the 40 did not penetrate much. I don't expect the 10mm to be any better with higher velocities.
Quote from: Desolo on October 12 2014 09:31:25 AM MDT
From what im seeing the .40 version only had 7in's of penetration!? :o quite explosive though.... I wonder if it will penetrate farther, or less in 10mm? Either way I imagine it will be explosive.... should be neat to see!
Less.
I don't see it penetrating any better. That is not the intent of the round. The idea is to cause MASSIVE wound shock from intense immediate energy transfer. I would suspect the penetration through 4 layers of Denim to duplicate the FBI penetration testing would have a few FTP situations. However, there is a reason they put "Trauma Plates" into Ballistic Vests ;) The Impact is going to leave one hell of a bruise even if it doesn't actually penetrate. Easily break a rib or two, and make your heart skip a beat or two just from the energy release at impact.
Finally the weather broke and I ran these through just the Limited. The Hunter is down for a face-lift and I will run them in the longer barrel later. I put a couple of "send backs" from The Shadow's pull-downs over again. They don't always give the initial results due to case tension.
MagSafe Defender 96gr
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1879, 1902, 1891. Average = 1890.66 FPS/ 762 LBS
Crossfire 125gr Grenade
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1698 FPS/ 800 LBS
Underwood Ammo 155gr TMJ (Not For Public)
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1599 FPS/ 880 LBS
What were the previous numbers for the CrossFire Flap was 1700 fps and the Underwood NFP. If I recall the NFP was 1500 fps Flap.
I had my first > 2000 FPS 10mm round today too
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Magsafe Defender 96gr Fragmenting
EAA Super Match 2036, 2028, 2027, 1998. Average = 2022.25 FPS/ 872 LBS
SMOKIN'! Its fast but very light loses energy quickly!