Got some today ;) The 135's are rated 1609 FPS and the 155's should give 1410 FPS.
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I'm not sure on what the 155 HP is yet.
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I see they show the 135 as Nosler but the 155 isn't named...They appear to be Montana Gold!
I wonder how they perform?
http://montanagoldbullet.com/index.php/40-155gr-jhp-92.html
Quote from: Intercooler on August 14 2014 06:18:53 PM MDT
I wonder how they perform?
http://montanagoldbullet.com/index.php/40-155gr-jhp-92.html
I have seen them shed their petals in gel, with the lead core continuing to penetrate. That having been said, I wouldn't want to be hit by one.
I was thinking of ordering some of these and trying them in my in my Glock.
155 grains at 1400 fps, jacket separation would be the least of my worries! :o
Andrew tested the MAC 165gr MG's and Buffalo Bore 180gr MG's I sent. Both looked to do well except shedding the peddles. Should be pretty decent in 155gr also.
They have the 200gr Beartooth Hardcast and I hope to get some soon for testing.
They look pretty good Intercooler. I'm going to give them try.
Okay, I just ordered two boxes. Will see how they do..
I had two loads on the 135's as it turns out. The unmarked rounds are Lite compared to the 1609 FPS rated ones ;D
PBR 155gr Montana Gold HP
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1490, 1451, 1438. Average = 1459.66 FPS/ 733 LBS
EAA Hunter 6" 1530, 1541. Average = 1535.5 FPS/ 812 LBS
PBR 135gr Nosler HP
(Unmarked) EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1544, 1541, 1518, 1536. Average = 1534.75 FPS/ 706 LBS
(Unmarked) EAA Hunter 6" 1603, 1611, 1656, 1633, 1599. Average = 1620.4 FPS/ 787 LBS
(Marked 1609 FPS) EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1638, 1643, 1674, 1677, 1656. Average = 1657.6 FPS/ 824 LBS
(Marked 1609 FPS) EAA Hunter 6" 1653, 1742, 1693, 1671, 1755. Average = 1702.8 FPS/ 869 LBS
Somewhere in my supplies, I have 500 of the Montana Gold 165 grain JHP's to be loaded. Not bad bullets, even though they are not a bonded. ;)
Quote from: The_Shadow on August 15 2014 07:03:22 PM MDT
Somewhere in my supplies, I have 500 of the Montana Gold 165 grain JHP's to be loaded. Not bad bullets, even though they are not a bonded. ;)
Cup and core is better than nothing. Then, there is the theory that fragmentation actually
assists incapacitation.
Quote from: Intercooler on August 15 2014 06:00:03 PM MDT
I had two loads on the 135's as it turns out. The unmarked rounds are Lite compared to the 1609 FPS rated ones ;D
PBR 155gr Montana Gold HP
EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1490, 1451, 1438. Average = 1459.66 FPS/ 733 LBS
EAA Hunter 6" 1530, 1541. Average = 1535.5 FPS/ 812 LBS
PBR 135gr Nosler HP
(Unmarked) EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1544, 1541, 1518, 1536. Average = 1534.75 FPS/ 706 LBS
(Unmarked) EAA Hunter 6" 1603, 1611, 1656, 1633, 1599. Average = 1620.4 FPS/ 787 LBS
(Marked 1609 FPS) EAA Elite Limited 4.75" 1638, 1643, 1674, 1677, 1656. Average = 1657.6 FPS/ 824 LBS
(Marked 1609 FPS) EAA Hunter 6" 1653, 1742, 1693, 1671, 1755. Average = 1702.8 FPS/ 869 LBS
Thanks for posting the results, IC. I am looking forward to trying these when I get them.
Wow those 135gr Noslers are hot! That average is past even Underwood velocities, isn't it?
It's the hottest 135gr to date.
Quote from: Intercooler on August 14 2014 07:06:34 PM MDT
Andrew tested the MAC 165gr MG's and Buffalo Bore 180gr MG's I sent. Both looked to do well except shedding the peddles. Should be pretty decent in 155gr also.
I think that the important take away from the tests is that the Montana Gold bullets I've tested have all experienced significant fragmentation and every 155 gr 10mm I tested, except for solid copper bullets, have failed to meet penetration standards. If I were to attempt a prediction, I'd guess that the 155 gr Montana Gold would hit between 10"-11".
I placed a follow-up order tonight of the 135 and 155's plus added the 165's (we don't have them on the sheet). I do believe the production 135's will be the 1500 FPS versions instead of the 1600 FPS I was sent a few of. Maybe if the timing is right, or I can get them to hold my order, I can work the Beartooth 200's in there with them.
Andrew I will send some of each your way to see.
On second thought, I'm not sure if the PBR 135gr is faster than Underwood. These were with a 4.75" barrel, was the Underwood with a 4.6"?
Same test platforms. The commercial load will be the 1500 FPS version which is slower. It might actually perform better in gel.
I am still waiting for my order to arrive.
Anthony must have taken a sabbatical or something. :P
They were away at a show.
Thanks. I got it yesterday and fired it yesterday. The 155 grain was peppy, as you indicated. There was a lot of muzzle flash, which could be a downer in a self defense situation taking place in the dark.
But the ammo was good and powerful, accurate, and was a LOT of fun to shoot.
Nice product.
Hopefully soon now that they are back I can get the 200 Beartooth HC's for testing.
Sounds good. My order was packed by Amber. I think I will be ordering some more.
I wish Kevin would get his 165 tmj's back in stock.
I didn't get Hunter data for the 135gr Noslers last time. This is from today:
EAA Hunter 6" 1613, 1585, 1632. Average = 1610 FPS/ 777 LBS