Any suggested mods for a glock 29? I bought one used with a ghost trigger and fiber optic sights. I have ordered glock 20 mags with the sleeves. I have been looking at lone wolf barrels possible get an extended barrel or a .40 to open up ammo options.
A-ha. Please school me on the benefits of a stronger mainspring. I'm ignorant.
I was planning on ordering a 20 lb and 22 lb recoil spring to experiment with (the benefits of those are obvious). Any experiences and input on this is most welcome.
I would do the 23 lb spring if running hot loads. Also a extend slide release improved mine. That minimal POS they put on there would barely work on mine. I would only do the .40 barrel if you don't have any .40s already. Run mine with the stock barrel. If you don't have a .40 then this would be a great option to shoot a caliber you don't have.
I say run it the way it is and put you money towards 10mm ammo
I run the wolff Gun Springs non captive two piece rod and dual 21lb spring set on my G-29 Gen 3 non SF model, this arrangement has worked with the 10mm mild to wild, 40S&W, 357Sig and 9x25Dillon. ;D I have the 23lb set but it is very stout and only used for extreme testing. My original factory spring started to slip off the plastic button, Glock sent a free replacement! +1 for them! 8)
The extra powered spring controls ejected brass to shorter distance, slows the slide velocity.
I don't have a .40 but I am looking at it being cheaper to practice with and the extended barrel and g20 mags due to a local wildlife refuge having boar(me and the wife go hiking there. Actually going there was the reason my first carry gun was a 10mm.
Let's see what have I done to the Ugly thing. (Yes it is ugly but my G29 gen 3 is becoming my EDC).
1) Good night sights (I use AMERIGLO I DOT PRO)
2) Maritime Cups
3) Extended Slide release
4) Extended takedown lever thing
5) Stronger Hammer spring
6) Grip plug
7) Talon Grip
8) rounded off the edges on the magazine release.
9) polished the feed ramp.
I run Underwood 180's through it with no issues.
My friends call it my Not-Glock since I have changed or modified more than 40% of it. And I'm doing the same to my wife's Glock 26.
You're looking at 3 different barrels then. For an extended one I believe they make a 4.6 inch option. Kkm seems to be the aftermarket to go with. Haven't really heard anything wrong with these. I've had issues with my stormlake and some people have problems with lone wolf. Underwoods 220 grain hardcast would kill any boar. See if that will run reliably in your 29.
The only issue would be my local range only allows jacketed ammo so I can't test it.
Dang, maybe the Underwood 200 grain xtp and 200 grain fmj.
I was thinking the same.
I tried a LW barrel in my Gen 3 -29 but still had issues with brass not being re-loadable due to lack of adequate support. I went to KKM and have been pleased. I have a stock length KKM, a 4.6" KKM and a stock 40S&W conversion. I also mounted a Sight Mount rear sight/picatinny rail on one of my G29s(Gen3) that holds a Trijicon RMR 06 RDS. That is especially good for testing loads because I can shoot it more accurately than open sights. It also has the advantage of easy adjustment for sight tuning when switching barrels.
With the 4.6" barrel and the RDS it is like a compact G20 that shoots 200 grain WFN cast at 1250 fps for woods carry and hunting. My Gen4 is set up with the tactical adjustable rear and a Dawson Precision front for EDC. The 40 conversion barrel shoots closely enough to POA with the 10mm barrel that I can switch to either barrel depending on ammo availability. I like the .40 mainly for the abundance of brass. I can seat the bullets longer than the standard .40 seating depth which enables me to safely achieve velocities of around 1140 with the 200 grain WFN - great for general purpose and practice as well as SD.
I use the Wolff non-capture 21 lb spring and rod in the Gen 3 and just have the OEM in the Gen 4 since I don't shoot max loads for EDC. I agree with The Shadow's assessment of the 23lb spring. I've tried it.
The Gen3 has a 3.5 lb connector, but the Gen4 is stock, although I did the polish job on the internal parts and it is almost as good as the Gen3.
I have a Gen3 G20 also, but I prefer the size of the G29 for carrying, plus my hands are small so I shoot it better.
Incidentally, I have gone to powder coating for my cast bullets and am quite happy with the results - much cleaner and easier to handle, no leading, good accuracy. I've never shot jacketed in any of my 10's.
I've got a G29 Gen4.
The only changes I made were ext slide release, night sights, pearce +0 extenders, and a pyramid fulcrum trigger.
I don't intend to shoot underwater, so the maritime cups weren't needed. I don't need a $13 part to help me take down the slide, its not like I do this all the time. my 29 is my carry gun, I carry low profile, so no G20 mags w/grips. If I'm at the point I am putting a 15 rounder in, the last thing I want to worry about is if an external part is causing the mag to not sit properly. The pyramid will probably raise some questions, but the fact is I got it on sale for $130 (this is for the middle kit), and it eliminates all pretravel as well as reduces reset greatly. Once you try it, you will never go back to the stock, or even ghost connector trigger bars.
I have a heavier spring on my fullsize G20, but the 29 shoots everything in it without an issue, even underwood 180gr.
As far as other barrels, I have shot .40 out of the stock barrel. I'm not advocating anyone do this (do so at your own risk), but I can say that I have shot 150 rounds through both guns, and not one single issue whatsoever. I wasn't going to spend $120 on a barrel, when I can spend that on ammo. I still carry with 10, I just practice with .40.
I ordered a lw extended ported barrel and got it in this morning to try test it out. The fit is tight the finish is not the greatest I had cycled a couple mags and feeds well I am going to take it to the range this weekend.
Ok I finally tested the lw barrel and I had a few ftf's, it seems to need the feed ramp polished. I had my shell casings eject nearly vertical so I broke a floodlight over my head at the range(never done that before) any ideas how to fix it?
Were the rounds underwood? They're the only rounds that ever gave my stormlake barrel a hard time. Like they're out of spec or something. I've still yet to try PBR.
I fired underwood and armscor, both were flawless in the stock barrel and both had ftf's in the lone wolf barrel.
I have 3 lone wolf barrels. G20-10mm ported, G20-9x25, G29-9x25
All of them required me to polish the feed ramps before running flawlessly.
KKM barrels come polished. Both of mine lock up tight and run flawlessly in my G20SFs.
In general each change I've made has either done nothing at all or made the gun perform a bit worse, but nothing serious. The usual recoil spring mods (aftermarket this, aftermarket that) have done nothing at all to change anything, near as I can tell. The tritium night sights are wonderful but now the gun shoots about 2" high at 7 yds. The G20 magazines with sleeves consistently cause jams--probably at least one per magazine. Let's see, what else--oh yeah I dropped in a Fulcrum trigger and added a high strength mainspring, and I find that more comfortable and it 'looks nicer'. I added a Lone Wolf barrel, and it works just fine (as did the stock barrel) except it generally protects the brass better than the stock unit, but is much fussier about what it chambers.
So, all in all, several hundred dollars in mods, none of which serve any purpose at all except to frustrate my efforts to more effective shooting. Well, I like the trigger a lot--I'd say that's a 100% improvement, and the recoil springs don't do anything at all and I expect them to last for the remainder of my life--if they don't then I'll put the stock recoil setup back in, and it WILL last the rest of my life.
Love the gun.
I guess I'm one of the luckier one with LW barrel - that and the G20 gen3- 15rd mags are the only mods to my G29sf gen3.
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And have gone so fare as to see how long it can go with out cleaning, I put about 50 to 100rds through it every time I go to the range - about every other week. After about 400 to 500 rounds I finely got a FTF,took just a nudge to close the slide and fire the round.( I cleaned it there with a bore snake and finished the range time )
My 29sf gen3 eats anything I put in it thats commercial and my UW type reloads - What a hand full they are - not really fun to shoot with a 29 with out the 15rd mags.
Its my EDC and I love it.
Doug
Well here is my little "whipper snapper" G-29!
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The Storm Lake 40S&W barrel doesn't like dirty burning ammo because the chamber is tight, the 10mm Storm Lake works great, both are accurate, the LWD 357Sig and 9x25Dillon conversions work well, but the shorter barrel, doesn't yield the velocity like longer 9x25 barrels.
Nice Shadow - I was going to go the route you did with yours and decided to stay with just loading my 10mm's to suit what I needed - though I thought long and hard about the 9x25 and the 357 sig barrels - but decided to KISS instead with my dies and powder and the heads I use. I do load 40 shot and weak for my son and my daughter but that only adds two different heads that I have in inventory.
Doug
Doug I totally understand, the 40S&W and 357Sig was only because I had a good collection of brass in these calibers, so this gave me a platform to make good use of these especially with my cast bullets making it very economical.
Now about the 9x25Dillon, It had intrigued me when I first read about it, being a handloader I wanted to have something that was unique. I got my first barrel for the 9x25Dillon conversion barrel from Mike McNett of Double Tap for my S&W1006, acquired a used set of Dillon dies shortly afterwards, and started learning how to load these even with powders others had not used. When I got the G-29 I figured hey what the heck its just another barrel so I pick up a 9x25Dillon for it.
The funniest thing is, I actually bought a 9x25Dillon 6" barrel for the G-20SF, many months before I purchased one. Therefore I had an excuse to buy the G-20. ;D
I'm still hold on to hope for the conversion barrels I have being made for my S&W 10xx series...my buddy hasn't been able to get back on the CNC machines to finish the work. Fingers Crossed! ::)
Sweet collection of barrels Shadow! gotta say I am jealous!
dumb question - but why buy a .40 conversion barrel with a 10mm gun? The Glock extractors seem to hold the rounds against the breech face just fine. Worst thing that could happen is a light primer strike....right? I fired a box of .40 through my G20 without a hiccup. I have heard of many others doing it as well with no issues. Accuracy was just as good as 10mm as far as I could tell. I know the whole head spacing on the case mouth argument, but if you are not shooting for "life and death" the 10mm chambers work just fine with .40 ammo as far as I can tell. IMO if you are needing life and death reliability a conversion is never a good idea. But they are fun to play around with :D
any reason why I should not be shooting .40 through my G20 barrels? Obviously I only do it once in a blue moon, but curious what everyones take is.....I guess at the end of the day we are all in this hobby for fun and buying "accessories" makes it fun ;D
While the 40 can be shot in the 10mm barrel, its shorter case can leave your barrel with a dirty sooted area that will need to be cleaned well before trying to use the 10mm again. By changing out the barrel I don't have to worry about that.
I shoot plenty cast bullets that I cast and load for cheaper shooting, brass for the 40 is plentiful so it saves the 10mm brass while still getting trigger time from the same platform. It's all fun!