I hate these days >:D
The day started off shooting some Underwood 150gr Noslers that were sent to me. No issues out of the Pro, but the last shot out of the Hunter barely made a thud. Lucky for me it was also the last round in the magazine and I also knew the sound from being at the range seeing the same thing first hand. I tried using a Chrony rod to push it out so I could finish up testing but no dice! When I broke it down I also noticed the guide-rod come apart. Pictures here in a little bit as the round is still in there and I need some suggestions on how to get it out.
What caused the guide rod to come apart? :o
Good thing you didn't have a KB.
The stupid Hunter uses a two-piece deal that is pinned. The cross-pin broke and I have been told it would be a matter of time. It's a weak link!
Here are the pictures of the 150gr Nosler and Hunter.
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Use a wooden Dowel to drive the bullet back out toward the rear of the barrel, if it wants to be stubborn use some KROIL and let it soak a little while. However it should drive out.
Judging from the black soot on the casing, it was loaded very light with some powder or it didn't fully ignite.
I'm glad it was the last round. The gun is fixable but my digits aren't :o
If the wooden dowel doesn't push it out, try a brass/aluminum/steel rod with heavy tape to keep it centered so as not to touch the rifling...as you drive it out.
I keep wooden dowels in my range bag just in case I or someone else has an issue like that.
That's my plan! I'm going to do the same thing and also a small hammer.
Glad to hear you're ok. Sorry to hear about that squib. Let me know what I should do with the remainder of my 150's and if a call to Mr. Underwood is required.
Will do! I plan on calling him this morning first thing to relay what happened.
Use a thick steel rod, or a screwdriver shaft, with a piece of fired 9mm brass over the tip to protect the bore. The steel shaft should be thick enough to take a good heavy hit; if the bullet is in the rifling very far it will take some effort to remove. Do not try to use a cleaning rod as it appears you've already done; hopefully you didn't nick the bore doing that. It looks like you came pretty close.
Aluminum rod is OK too, but I don't like wood for this; it can splinter and wedge the bullet even tighter in the bore.
If it's really stuck, fill the bore partly with oil, and fit some sort of dowel tightly in the bore, and strike it with a hammer; the hydraulic pressure will drive the bullet out without damage.
Thanks for the suggestions! It made sense about the 9mm round so I put one in and used the now two-piece guide rod to tap it out with a dead-blow hammer.
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I brushed and cleaned the bore after removal and it looks great.
Sorry to hear of the mishap.
I really like the reloading thing. If something like that happens to me, no one but me to blame.
I'm sure glad it wasn't the first shot of a double tap. That would have been really bad!!!
Greg
EAA hasn't gotten back to me on a replacement pin. I may just get it welded!
Quote from: Intercooler on March 21 2014 07:29:47 AM MDT
EAA hasn't gotten back to me on a replacement pin. I may just get it welded!
That blows..
Today took the cake!
As you may know I don't care one bit about dealing with the ladies answering the phones at EAA. I'm sorry but they don't know the products and possibly even anything about guns. If they are the face to the customer for these things EAA should sit them down to some hands on training with take downs, etc... Possibly even give a test for them to pass.
So I called today and asked if they found the pin part number. She says "what is the pin part number"? I said that's what I called for yesterday. Next, she says "what's the serial number of your Hunter"? I tell her I don't have it here with me. I just need the cross-pin that holds the two pieces together of the Hunter guide rod. Her response was "the Hunter doesn't have a guide rod". I said you didn't just say that, did you? Her next response was "let me send you the exploded view so we can get on the same page". She sends me the standard size pistol drawing with a one piece guide rod. I responded that isn't my pistol (8.1 was the rod on that drawing). I then e-mail her my picture of the Hunter rod here. She replied with "you need 8.1". Nope, I need that part, but the two-piece which the Hunter is. I gave up!
I think I am going to remove all the black coating off and have it Tig welded at work. The pin will eventually just fail again shooting strong 10mm.
That is ridiculous. I understand these ladies aren't techs, but they should have some idea at least.
I called USA magazines with a mag issue once, and since the lady couldn't answer my question she put on with a tech who could answer my question.
It isn't a difficult concept..
I have fixed it this evening. It just so happens I had a packet of JB Weld that was unopened hanging in the shop for years to assist me.
- Clean with brake cleaner
- Mix JB Weld an fill the cavity
- Insert inner rod
- Wipe off excess JB Weld squished out
- Insert perfect size pop rivet as cross pin
- Trim rivet
- Hammer rivet ends and file
It should be ready to go in the morning after some hours to harden.
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Looks good! :D
When I read a little about the JB Weld it seems to be pretty strong all on its own!
Oh... and it's better than dealing with EAA. They make me want to kick myself in the groin :o
OUCH!