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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on March 03 2014 01:06:26 PM MST

Title: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 03 2014 01:06:26 PM MST
Should have these by next week for testing.

- Reed's 165gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1350 FPS
- Reed's 175gr Silvertip JHP Rated 1300 FPS
- Reed's 180gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1250 FPS
- Federal Classic 180gr JHP Rated 1050 FPS and was an early bonded round for the MP-5... I think.
- Doubletap 165gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1425 FPS  ;D
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: DenStinett on March 03 2014 02:03:24 PM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on March 03 2014 01:06:26 PM MST
Should have these by next week for testing.

- Reed's 165gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1350 FPS
- Reed's 175gr Silvertip JHP Rated 1300 FPS
- Reed's 180gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1250 FPS

Is this Ron Reed in OKC ?
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 03 2014 02:07:38 PM MST
Yup. Reed's A&R.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 12 2014 04:27:25 PM MDT
 All the Reed's ammos are loaded in new Winchester brass
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Walmart? Wonder how long ago that was! My seller was supposed to send 39 of these. I have 4!
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My seller sent these Federals by accident mixed in. Is it Hardcast or standard lead? He sent 20 of these.
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I also have 14 old looking Winchester Silvertips in the Federal box. That's 38 leaving me one short.
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  I'm debating what to do on the Federal mixed box. I can't get much data with just 4 rounds of the JHP's. With one going to The Shadow for pull-down I could do one pistol length. Possibly get that one back and send two for Raggedyman's gel testing  ???
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: 4949shooter on March 12 2014 05:05:36 PM MDT
I would like to see what the Reed's Silvertip does in gel in comparison to the older Silvertip.

Also, I would like to see the Reed's 165 grain Golden Sabre.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 12 2014 05:29:31 PM MDT
  The 175gr rated velocity is close to what the original I picked up recently produced. Can you still get GS bullets as components? My seller told me it was a mistake on the Federal box contents. Looks like I'm keeping the stuff that is there and getting a refund. I'm trying to figure out what the lead looking rounds are.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: 4949shooter on March 12 2014 06:13:06 PM MDT
I am no expert but they look like plain old lead to me.

Did you just get 4 rounds of the Hi Shok in the box? I thought you were getting like 4 boxes of it.

Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: 4949shooter on March 12 2014 06:16:04 PM MDT
On second thought, are the case heads on the lead stamped Federal (something like FC).

The reason I ask is that Natchez shooters supplies used to advertise a high antimony lead Federal 180 grain round. It could be those.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 12 2014 06:16:49 PM MDT
  I only wanted a partial and he said this was a 39 round box of them. Instead of that I have this mix  :-\
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 12 2014 06:27:55 PM MDT
  It looks like we may have worked something out to get a couple of Black Talons in place of the Federals.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 18 2014 05:02:23 PM MDT
- Reed's 165gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1350 FPS
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1250, 1248, 1254. Average = 1250.66 FPS/ 573 LBS David got 1286 FPS out of the G20

- Reed's 175gr Silvertip JHP Rated 1300 FPS
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1219, 1221, 1243, 1213, 1219. Average = 1223 FPS/ 581 LBS The Old Silvertip I tested today was stronger in recoil and Chrony readings.

- Reed's 180gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1250 FPS
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1179, 1190, 1231, 1181. Average = 1195.25 FPS/ 571 LBS David got 1180 FPS out of the G20

- Federal Classic 10C 180gr JHP
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1013, 1022. Average = 1017.5 FPS/ 414 LBS

- Doubletap 165gr Golden Saber JHP Rated 1425 FPS
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1330, 1330, 1344. Average = 1334.66 FPS/ 653 LBS Still pretty far off advertised. David got 1254 FPS but it could have been later (watered) compared to these
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 18 2014 05:06:30 PM MDT
  I really wanted the Reed's to be as strong as the numbers in the sheet. Sadly though the Old Winchester rounds I put with these were a different animal in every way!

Old Winchester 175gr Silvertips
EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1261, 1271, 1255. Average = 1262.33 FPS/ 619 LBS

Similar Silvertip with the 13.0gr's of powder gave 1269 FPS the last time out of the same Pro.

Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 18 2014 05:30:31 PM MDT
The unknown Federal lead 180gr:

EAA Limited Pro 4.75" 1029, 1038, 1036. Average = 1034.33 FPS/ 428 LBS


Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: The_Shadow on March 18 2014 07:06:10 PM MDT
Was it one of these Unknowns that squibed on you?  ???
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 18 2014 08:33:53 PM MDT
Underwood 150gr Sierra squibed.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Slateman on March 25 2014 09:09:04 AM MDT
I see Double Tap is still having quality control issues.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 25 2014 11:31:24 AM MDT
What kind of issues?
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Slateman on March 25 2014 03:53:31 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on March 25 2014 11:31:24 AM MDT
What kind of issues?
Quality control. They claim a certain velocity but their rounds have a substantial lower velocity than advertised.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 25 2014 04:14:48 PM MDT
Naa. That's just false advertising  :o

I haven't gotten a bad round from them, PBR or Buffalo Bore so far.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Slateman on March 25 2014 04:41:57 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on March 25 2014 04:14:48 PM MDT
Naa. That's just false advertising  :o

I haven't gotten a bad round from them, PBR or Buffalo Bore so far.

I was being nice. It's one thing to be 15-30 fps off. It's another to be over a hundred.
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 25 2014 04:47:09 PM MDT
 They are at least changing the rated barrel length to longer and longer. Pretty soon all flaps will read 7" Javelina  ???
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: 4949shooter on March 25 2014 06:03:19 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on March 25 2014 04:47:09 PM MDT
They are at least changing the rated barrel length to longer and longer. Pretty soon all flaps will read 7" Javelina  ???

Ha!  :))
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on March 25 2014 06:34:50 PM MDT
That was kind of funny when you think about it  ;D
Title: Re: Reed's 165, 175, 180 plus Doubletap 165 and Federal Classic 180
Post by: Intercooler on April 01 2014 06:32:02 PM MDT
With the Hunter guide rod fixed and squib removed I tested these today.

- Doubletap 165gr GS JHP 1436, 1411, 1407. Average = 1418 FPS/ 737 LBS
- Reed's 180gr GS JHP 1314, 1327. Average = 1320.5 FPS/ 697 LBS
- Reed's 165gr GS JHP 1403, 1392. Average = 1397.5 FPS/ 716 LBS
- Reed's 175gr ST JHP 1316, 1318. Average = 1317 FPS/ 674 LBS