http://blog.rtba.co/sw-500-magnum-vs-watermelons/#.UvZqR8KYZ9C
;D
Your money tree must really be blooming ;D
I can always dream. 8)
Amazing accuracy.....at 1 meter ! :o
And believe it or not, the .460 S&W has even more Power then that 8)
Quote from: DenStinett on February 08 2014 01:28:36 PM MST
Amazing accuracy.....at 1 meter ! :o
And believe it or not, the .460 S&W has even more Power then that 8)
The other nice thing about the 460. You can shoot .454 and 45 Lc out of the same gun.
Shoots a little cheaper that way.
Quote from: DenStinett on February 08 2014 01:28:36 PM MST
Amazing accuracy.....at 1 meter ! :o
And believe it or not, the .460 S&W has even more Power then that 8)
They are both really hard shooting calibers, but the 500 is still more powerful I believe.
Go to the Corbon Hunter and compare the two, closer than I thought but the 500 still is king as far as power goes. You can't beat the 500 for 2 yard watermelon shots.
Long range loads are a different matter all together. That is where the 460 shines.
Just wait till I get the 416 Rigby barrel. Likely wouldn't do as well with watermelons, but I figure it will outshine with LP tanks or something.
Greg
Quote from: Geeman on February 08 2014 03:34:40 PM MST
Just wait till I get the 416 Rigby barrel. Likely wouldn't do as well with watermelons, but I figure it will outshine with LP tanks or something.
Greg
My 416 Rigby is in a Ruger #1. In that gun one is able to load it up to 416 Weatherby pressures and it is a bear to shoot.
I can't imagine what it would be like in an Encore even with the stock.
Quote from: BEEMER! on February 08 2014 02:42:41 PM MST
Quote from: DenStinett on February 08 2014 01:28:36 PM MST
Amazing accuracy.....at 1 meter ! :o
And believe it or not, the .460 S&W has even more Power then that 8)
They are both really hard shooting calibers, but the 500 is still more powerful I believe.
Go to the Corbon Hunter and compare the two, closer than I thought but the 500 still is king as far as power goes. You can't beat the 500 for 2 yard watermelon shots.
Long range loads are a different matter all together. That is where the 460 shines.
Hey Beemer:
I may have mis-typed, but it depends on your source, one says the 460 and others say the 500
Yes, the 500 may edge out the 460 in Muzzle Energy (in most writings), but the 460 is just so much faster (averaging over 300 fps faster), it deliverers more energy down range (as you said)
Not that I will ever have either, but I too would rather have the versatility of the 460
Hey Beemer:
I may have mis-typed, but it depends on your source, one says the 460 and others say the 500
Yes, the 500 may edge out the 460 in Muzzle Energy (in most writings), but the 460 is just so much faster (averaging over 300 fps faster), it deliverers more energy down range (as you said)
Not that I will ever have either, but I too would rather have the versatility of the 460
I still have my 500 but have given up shooting it because of arthritic wrists. I have never had the pleasure of shooting a 460.
In the 500, full loads behind the 350 grain bullets were fun, behind the 400 grain a bit more challenging.
As for the 440 grains with max load, by the third cylinder I would develop a flinch and would have to quit.
I have a friend with a .500 and he bought some of the 700gr ammo, as far as I know he hasn't fired any yet, maybe a good idea not to. :o
Quote from: yankee2500 on February 08 2014 09:25:32 PM MST
I have a friend with a .500 and he bought some of the 700gr ammo, as far as I know he hasn't fired any yet, maybe a good idea not to. :o
It wouldn't be something I would buy.
One, maybe two shots might be OK. Recoil can be an accumulative thing, at least for me. One or two are fine but then it starts working on you.
Did someone say .500? 700gr?
I took some pictures at my range when a shooter showed up with one.
700gr.
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.500
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Video
Those are some big SLEDGE HAMMERS!
They look like .45-70 rounds. :o
As deep as that bullet is seated it looks like you would run out of room for powder, especially the slow powders you would need for that load to be effective.
The video I shot was of the 700gr. I can tell you the shorter ones (300gr range) had much more blast and pop. I wish I captured those in another video because they were hitting that big guy hard and I could feel the heat rise from the flash. The lighter weight bullets with more powder seem to have more snap to them IMO.
Well that is where proper powder selection versus the amount of space left in the case has to reach a balance of burn rate, gas production, pressure and velocity come into play.
Hodgdon's LilGun powder provides a good balance of all of these criteria...look at these numbers.
This is posted at http://www.reloadammo.com/500sw.htm (http://www.reloadammo.com/500sw.htm)
Quote700 GR. Lead Flat-nose GC .501 (MAXIMUM Loads)(Monster recoil)
(Ranger Rick Bullet http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/ )
Lil'Gun 27.2 gr. 1,294 fps
Lil'Gun 27.5 gr. ~1,200 fps (max, start lower)
Lil'Gun 27.0 gr. 1,126 fps personal, Hi=1152 Lo=1093 Spread=58.6
damn this mule kicks, had to use gloves, both on my right hand
to stand the recoil. Good spread & accuracy. You won't shoot many of these
(This is 1970 foot pounds of energy)
(Note, do not compress the powder with seating bullet - increased pressures)
H110/W296 24.5 gr. 1,200 ~ fps (24.0 to 25.0 gr. are used)
H110/W296 25.0 gr. 1,036 fps Hi=1042 Lo=1022, spread=20.1 Great load from
Bill Bramlett of Ballistic Supply
H110/W296 25.4 gr. 1,067 fps Max - bullet seated out sightly to avoid powder compression
IMR 4759 22.2 gr. 982 fps.
When i was loading the 500, Lil'Gun worked well along with H110 for about everything.
The trouble with the 454 was there was never enough room in the case to get enough H110 into it to maximize the load. I used a lot of #9 for it.