Personally, I like Mossberg 590. However, the Remington 870 has stood the 'test of time'. The Ithaca 37 is also great if you happen to be a 'southpaw'. I'm a big fan of load, and eject from the bottom.
Mine is the Remington 870 30" Full Choke (real choke about 9", not the screw in type), has taken many ducks out to 70 yards when lead shot was legal. Rabbits and squirrels didn't stand a chance, Took a nice pheasant in Pennsylvania.
Skeet were always fun! 8) Have a 20" Rifle sighted barrel (ImpCyl) for buckshot and rifled slug work. ;D
I have (4) pump shotguns-
2- Mossberg 590 A1's w/20" barrels and 8 round magazines
2- Ithaca 37 "Riot Guns" w/18" barrels and 7 round magazines
I have to say, that while the 590's seem a little more stout, and carry an extra round, I really like my Ithaca's. They're quicker to get on target, and the actions are as smooth as glass.
I kinda like my Winchester 1300D, 12gg
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I've consolidated down to the Mossberg 500 and lots of 'em, position in various locations on the property. The first shot is #8, everything else is #1 Buck.
For me it's the Benelli M3 (the SPAS is too bulky) or a sleek Ithaca 37/87's.
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The wood stock model is one of the new style with a non removable barrel.
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Can't forget about my AOW Stakeout.
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It's on the list down the road.
Browning BPS
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Quote from: Intercooler on February 22 2014 05:29:00 PM MST
It's on the list down the road.
Browning BPS
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Had one, smooth action, mine was 20gauge and was too heavy for a pump that size.
Greg
Great for a lefty, pretty to look at and bottom ejection. Heavy means less shoulder damage :D
Mossberg 500
I think my next firearm will be a shotty and have had my eye on the Mossberg 930 semi-auto lately due to the price point being not too much more than a pump. Anyone heard good or bad things outside of store reviews?
Definitely want 6+ shell capacity but don't want it too long either. I do like that wood Ithaca pump. I went to Cornell for a few years a long time ago and friends and I walked thru their old empty, rundown factory a few times messing around that was not too far from campus(Ithaca, NY).
KSG, 15 rounds of fury !!!! If you load Aguilla mini shells it'll hold 25. Just don't short stroke it!!!
2 soon to be 3 mossberg 500s. One is older than me, inherited from my grandfather.. I'm 40 now, had it since I was about 10. Other one was bought new at a pawn shop, long story but it was missing the barrel. I gave $100 for it.
I have owned various other 500s over the years but these two are here for good.
I have 2 brand new Benelli's, Nova Tacticals. Got them both at Dick's Sporting Goods for $300 each. I like the fact that you can eject the chambered shell without taking one from the magazine in the event you want to throw a slug down range in the midst of a buckshot shower.
the cheap Mossenberg 500 little brother known as the Maverick . Short barrel/long ammo tube
Bought 2, to throw one in the trunk of the car and one in the house... cheap but about 200 rounds in each, they work just fine
Best part is got 2 for almost the price of 1
My HD shotgun is a 18" barreled Remington 870 with a 6 shot magazine. I have a side saddle on it that holds an additional 6 rounds. Ammo of choice is #1 buckshot but will "settle" for 00 buck when #1 is not available.
My personal favorite is the remington 870 express magnum. I have tried other peoples winchesters, mossbergs, etc. but for me the remington always felt the best. I will say that the lever action .410 that my friend used to have was pretty fun though.
I'm glad DenStinett mentioned Winchester. I keep and extended mag slug barrel handy (no rifling) and I've had great luck with 18 inch defenders. I've had a lot of others but keep going back to Winchester.
Get a older Remington 870 or Marlin 590. There are NO OTHERS!! :)
All others compare them selves to the 870. Marlin did the 590 right when they went for the military contract, the 590 so setup is a great defensive shotgun!
Talk to any combat shotgun instructor. You just herd from this one. ;) :o :P :P :P
CW
Edit: A STRONG argument can be made for the Ithica too. :) Esp for a leftie as mentioned. (The 870 was offered LH as well.)
I just recently repaired my nephew's Remington 870 Express Magnum, they started using MIM parts in some of their cheaper runs sold at WalMart and Academy Stores. Anyway many reported that the extractors were stretching with use.
I called Remington and the nice lady listened to my story about this issue and she took the serial number of the gun and stated that the parts were on "Back Order" but she said they would send out a new part for me because I could service the shotgun myself. They did take a month and a half to get the parts out to me, but I replaced the part which is a simple change out.
Still a great gun!
I'll be different...
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Winchester 1897.
I think that was the model they used in the trenches of the war..."Trench Broom"
Winchester Model of 1897 Shotgun, M97 Trench Gun, Trench Broom
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They are great, made all the difference back in the day... The where improved into the great model 12. neither is as durable or reliable as the 870.
I have one too, its a great gun! Here is a shot from many years ago on a Pheasant hunt with my lil brother.
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CW
Remington 870
Remington 870. Best of the breed, bar none! Durability, reliability, form-follows-function.
Captain O
Hard to beat the Remington 870. The older ones are better.
5) Mossy 500s
FN SLP MK1
MKA 1919
SPAS 12
Beside my bed for breakins is an 18 inch/6 shot 500
I've been working with my shotguns extensively for the past year and added 3 870P's to the stable. I have found a new love in the #24888, 20" with +3 mag extension.
other than a antique Marlin hammer pump and a Win.mod 12 16 ga. the pump shotguns I use most are a Rem mod 870 Wingmaster 3' mag. fixed full choke. this has been my main turkey killer for many years, a Win 1300 that has a smooth bore slug barrel with rifle sights. loaded with buckshot this is my deer jump gun.I also have a 26" barrel with screw in chokes for it. I use that for a spare turkey and upland bird gun, a 18" bbl Mossberg 500 Mariner Marine Finish for a boat gun and last is an old 2 3/4" chambered 18" bbl. High Standard (Flight King) Crusier that has a nickel finish. it stays loaded in my downstairs work shop.
I really like the smooth actions of Win.1300 and the High Standard. I like the way the Win 1300 feels and handles with either barrel and is so versatile so I guess you could say its my favorite but all are good shot guns.
Like? I like them all.
I have an 870. It is OK, but it could be better. It sometimes jams with Winchester el-cheapo steel base shells.
I like the old Winchester trench guns and the Ithaca M37 shotguns.
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I have a Remington 870 Marine Magnum 12ga. because it has a solid reputation for reliability and I was able to add a shorter Mesa Tactical pistol grip stock as well as Mesa's 7 rd shell carriers on the stock as well as to the side of the shotgun itself. I also changed out the forearm to a Surefire light forearm. I plan on adding Wilson Combat ghost ring sights. The Remington 870 Police Magnum shotguns at my agency had Wilson Combat Ghost Ring sights and they greatly added to the accuracy of slugs which we had to qualify with at 25 yards. My favorite shotgun is the Ithaca 37 Defense 7 shot shotgun. 7rds in the magazine tube and bottom eject with ability to hold the trigger down and pump shoot all 7 (or 8 with one in the chamber) rounds out as fats as you could work the pump action make this a great shotgun. It's also nicer, easier, and faster to manipulate because it is lighter and smaller than other shotguns. I just wish they made a side saddle shell holder for it (they don't) and ghost ring sights (they don't).
Being a "lefty", my first shotgun was a Ithaca Model 37. I think it was called a "Featherweight" back then. When I got into Law Enforcement, the Remington 870 was king, so I had to adapt to that platform.
When I retired I switched to the Mossberg 590-A1 and the 835, as the ergonomics suited me much better. I gave my 590-A1 to my son-in-law and I converted my 835 to HD use with a barrel swap to an 18-1/2" cylinder bore:
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Mine is an 870 that I picked up used from a friend that bought it from the Treemont (sp?) Pennsylvania PD. It was loaded every morning and unloaded every night. Beat up stock but the action is smooth as silk.
Any thoughts on the Benelli SuperNova? I have been looking for a good pump and I am not a fan of the 500 and 870.
The Nova/SuperNova are on my short list. Great guns from what I read.
My little brother is a Gov't trapper by trade. He gets paid to do what the rest of us in Texas pay to do. He probably owns 50 shotguns of various kinds. When the hunt is serious, as in crawling on yer hands and knees thru brush so thick you can't see but 5 feet in front of you, the Benelli Super Nova comes out. I've never know the gun to fail despite the fact that I doubt he has ever cleaned it in the 10 years he's owned it. His idea of cleaning one is to swish it around in a stock tank and shaking the water out of it. FWIW, the State of Texas has helicopters and fixed wing hunting aircraft that fly 5 days a week killing target animals. They use only the Benelli Super Nova. Some of those guns probably have close to 500 cases of ammo run thru them and still working. It has to be the toughest shotgun ever made.
Avoid the new 870 Express like the plague. I had the action lock up on a new one the first time I took it out of the box. Took it back to the dealer. He pulled out another one and pumped it himself. Same result. Got my money back.
Get the 870 Police model for more $$$. Coppers can't afford to have crap guns fail them. These are much better made.
I love 870 Wingmasters, I've owned many over the years. My favorite is my Wingmaster Classic in 16 gauge. Its made on the 16ga frame and was only available for a couple of years in the early 2000s, seems a unique and rare piece.
For home defense, I like my Benelli M1 20ga w/24" bbl. very light and fast handling. Loaded with 3" #4 copperplated turkey loads(a great two roomlength option!), its also a great upland gun!
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The Mossberg 590 Mariner has worked well for me, no issues whatsoever
870 (the old Wingmaster type, not the new Express crap-ola)
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the old Winchester 1300 / Defender.
Mossberg 500
Mossberg 590
Mossberg 535
Mossberg 835
I dislike Remington Shotguns.
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Quote from: TODDXUSMC on September 29 2018 12:19:27 AM MDT
I love 870 Wingmasters, I've owned many over the years. My favorite is my Wingmaster Classic in 16 gauge. Its made on the 16ga frame and was only available for a couple of years in the early 2000s, seems a unique and rare piece.
For home defense, I like my Benelli M1 20ga w/24" bbl. very light and fast handling. Loaded with 3" #4 copperplated turkey loads(a great two roomlength option!), its also a great upland gun!
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You sir will do jail time for malicious wounding, using Turkey loads for home defense. You know that will not stop a threat other than just the cruelty of it all. Do yourself a favor and get you some Federal 00 with Flight Control Wad.
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Quote from: TODDXUSMC on September 29 2018 12:19:27 AM MDT
I love 870 Wingmasters, I've owned many over the years. My favorite is my Wingmaster Classic in 16 gauge. Its made on the 16ga frame and was only available for a couple of years in the early 2000s, seems a unique and rare piece.
For home defense, I like my Benelli M1 20ga w/24" bbl. very light and fast handling. Loaded with 3" #4 copperplated turkey loads(a great two roomlength option!), its also a great upland gun!
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You sir will do jail time for malicious wounding, using Turkey loads for home defense. You know that will not stop a threat other than just the cruelty of it all. Do yourself a favor and get you some Federal 00 with Flight Control Wad.
Your right if one is shooting at twenty yards, however at 12-18feet(why would you be shooting any further unless you own a mansion)it will definitely stop a threat. Go out and shoot a watermelon at 15 feet with the above load(Im sure you have done extensive testing duplicating this exact scenario), with a similar wound channel to the chest cavity, combined with 1000 foot pounds of energy It will definitely stop a threat immediately.
On the other hand, with all the "bedroom gear " you have, a good prosecutor could easily argue you have a fixation on shooting people, and that you shouldn't have been allowed weapons in that state of mind to begin with. You need an education in actual incidents if you don't think a person has malice toward a threat when their family is at risk. I would propose it in fact takes malice to draw down and pull the trigger on another human being in a self defense scenario.
To help you understand the mindset of armed or deadly conflict, one man on another I suggest reading: On Killing-Maj David Grossman
And yes we get it, you don't like 870s.
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Quote from: sqlbullet on August 29 2018 03:42:53 PM MDT
The Nova/SuperNova are on my short list. Great guns from what I read.
A supernova is on my list as well. I love my nova, but you cannot change the stock. The Supernova has a replaceable stock that can be swapped for a pistol grip stock which I love on a turkey gun.
I have always been intrigued by the chuck a shell but don't drop one from the tube button, but that button was always kinda finicky on my nova.
Finish is awesome on my nova as well, its the camo version from about 10 years ago. Slipped crossing a creek and smacked the stock on a rock before I managed to stop my slide. Not a scratch from that!
I also have one of the B square mounts for it, nice during turkey season with a simple red dot.
I'm itching to give the new KS7 a look. Lighter and simpler than the KSG, for under $500. If it proves reliable it'll be a great home defense option.
Hey Zephyr,
I all depends on your intended use. My Mossberg 835 Turkey Magnum is primarily set up for coyotes, when implementing Carlson's Coyote Choke, as well as hevi shot dead coyote ammo, 9 really large pellets, capable of 60-70 yard kill shots (according to Carlson), I would say 60 yards max in my experience, it is an extremely effective weapon, but is also very niche orientated