I wanted to complete the data set for Double Tap 10mm and these are the last two. This week I managed to sell a bunch of other rounds (I don't have 4949shooter's money tree yet ;D) to do what I find most interesting... Put the ammo to the tests! I also lucked into a 10% discount code that actually worked!
Both were velocity tested by David before in a stock Glock and they were pretty slow. I think it warrants doing them again and having The Shadow pull them down. The Equalizer I want to send to Raggedyman for a gel test as well. It will be a little challenge for him since it is a three projectile round 8) The information about the ball hitting 2" from the main HP means he will need to double-stack gel blocks to get all of it. ;)
I'll buy the coffee. ;D
Not sure just how well I would make out pulling an Equalizer, 135gr. JHP over a 95gr. lead ball @ 1040fps.
It is said to be one one round ball. Hey, new learning experience, the ball may get beat up some on removal, not a big deal.
At least we will see what power and how much is used to make it go bang! ;D
What bullet is used for the 230 Hardcast? Is it Double Tap's own making?
Not sure where he gets his cast bullets or if he is cast them. He probably is getting them made from another company.
I tested Double Tap's now discontinued 215gr and it was 1201 FPS average with a better Meplat. It seems that would be a good compromise if the bullet is available.
For the 230gr Hardcast it looks like the rating went from the normal Glock 4.6" barrel to a 1911 5" ;D
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I'm taking the 6" too, just in case we can't hit the 5" numbers ;)
I really want to see what this 2-projectile round does in gel. A 135gr Nosler with a 95gr ball behind it giving two wound channels :o
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230 at 1120?
I'll take some of that...if it hits the mark.
Somebody (who??) said that Mike Mcnett was increasing his numbers again due to all the competition (read Underwood and Buffalo Bore). I would like to see these bad boys hit 1120 out of a 5 inch barrel. This would work out perfect when I get the Lone wolf 5.15 tactical length. ;)
That's like 1050 FPS in a Glock 4.6 right? Isn't that kind of weak? :(
Yes....if that's the case I will pass.
Here is a video of Hickok shooting them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m0satEkGjw
Didn't shoot good in the stock barrel.
No it didn't. Don't forget, I have the LoneWolf tactical barrel coming.
This and the 165gr 9mm are going to be a challenge. Doubletap's site says the ball hits 1" high everytime so a normal hold should prevent a Chronograph hit. I hope the first projectile (HP) makes it through for a reading without the second projectile (Ball) tripping it. Maybe it won't matter!
Don't mess up your chrono....it's not worth it!
Better off sending them to Andrew for a gel test. 8)
Even if I smack it the metal plate will take the hit. It's stood up to the strongest of .44 Magnum rounds :o
I have done so many now I am darn good at it 8) If I have an unknown I aim high the first round and follow with one lower after I see the impact.
Okay....good luck!
Looking forward to seeing today's results.
The 230 grain from DT did just under 1000 out of David's Glock. I am curious to see what they do out of your guns, and also if it looks like Mcnett upped the ante a bit. The highest velocity 230 grain +p .45 round I could find is the Grizzly round that does 975. All the other 230 +p 45's do 950 for comparison.
Kevin shows a +P running 1000 FPS.
http://www.underwoodammo.com/45acpp230grainjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspx
Of course!
I didn't check Kevin's site..
I am wondering how much powder can be stuffed into a 10mm case with a long 230 grain bullet. It might not be capable of much more than 1000, but I am hoping it is. Perhaps you will find out today.
Do we know what length barrel Kevin speed tests his 45 ammo from?
Stock Glock length barrel.
Looks like someone ran the 2-projectiles
It's not a cut and dry 1" high. No metal posts for these!
I agree with him, it is a neat concept. The stopping potential might be pretty good with the two projectiles.
The penetration is excessive though. It might be a better woods load.
It was 21 degrees when I started and 21 degrees when I left :o The results were good and about what I predicted.
Doubletap 230gr Equalizer 2-Projectile JHP (Limited 4.75") 1036, 1035, 1043. Average = 1038 FPS/ 550 LBS
Doubletap 230gr Equalizer 2-Projectile JHP (Hunter 6") 1076, 1094, 1074. Average = 1081.33 FPS/ 597 LBS
Doubletap 230gr Hardcast (Limited 4.75") 1068, 1088, 1127. Average = 1094.33 FPS/ 612 LBS
Doubletap 230gr Hardcast (Hunter 6") 1112, 1103, 1128. Average = 1114.33 FPS/ 634 LBS
If you go by the new box flap rating of 5.0" for the Equalizer and 4.6" rating for the Hardcast these met ratings :)
Thanks IC,.
So...I figure 1100+ out of the tactical 5.15" barrel.
Not too shabby.
The premise for the Equalizer (ball and bullet) arrangement was that two holes bleed more than just one. :-\
Someone told me a bit of information on the 230's. When the pull-down is done they might actually weigh 225gr ;)
For woods defense are you guys favoring the 200gr wfngc over the 230gr wfngc? While the energy is highet with 200gr momentum calcs are similar.