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http://www.concealednation.org/2013/11/rumored-glock-42-to-be-unveiled-in-january-2014/ (http://www.concealednation.org/2013/11/rumored-glock-42-to-be-unveiled-in-january-2014/)
Maybe single stack versions? Maybe if we are lucky they will continue the same nomenclature (example below). Or maybe the G42 will be multi caliber single stack.
G40 - 10mm
G41 - 45ACP
G42 - 40 S&W
I could be enticed by an ultra small 10mm. Something in the AMT backup size but without the reliability issues and weight of steel.
single stack, sub compact 10 or 40 would be real nice.. factory compensated would really help that size of gun. I have my G27 C comp ported and its really nice to shoot.
The ad appears in the January issue of Guns&Ammo, page 17. My wife already wants one. I believe we will be buying two!
From what I have heard, the G42 will be a single stack 9mm similar to the Smith and Wesson M&P Shield, Beretta Nano and the Walther PPS. I have also heard that the G40 and G41 will be in .380 and .40 s&w, but not necessarily in that order.
Of course, I'm mostly in the dark like everyone else. I heard from a source who knows someone who is related to a person in the know, so take that with a grain of salt.
Double stack 380?
http://thegunwire.com/blog/youtube-video-thefirearmguy-glock-42-thinnest-glock-yet-true-or-false/
G42 will be a longslide 45acp like the g34. The g41 will be a small single stack.
GLOCK UI4250201 GLOCK 42FS 380ACP 3.26? FS 764503910616 0 $352.00 $399.00
http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/products/GLOCK-41-GEN-4-45ACP-5.3-AS-13RD-GLOCK-PG4130103.html
GLOCK 41 GEN 4 45ACP 5.3 AS 13RD GLOCK PG4130103
A .380 with a slightly shorter barrel than a 26/27 & a .45 similar to a 34/35 but optics ready (or something additional due to the $775 retail price)? Looks like the 42 is LC380 sized (if single stack) rather than something as small as a LCP.
If glock doesnt make a sub 1" (.95") 9mm single stack with METAL mags, a 3.3" barrel and 6 or 7rd capacity they are a bunch of morons. They should also make single stack 10/45acp full size!
Found this on the internet, so it must be true?
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Quote from: StockIIBoss on December 18 2013 04:11:40 PM MST
Found this on the internet, so it must be true?
(http://tanfoglioforum.com/uploads/Glock%20Zippohead.png)
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I don't think Glock will ever make anything that I must have. I'm waiting....
Glock 42 .380 Auto and the Glock 41 45ACP alittle more info here... :D No 10mm Sorry! :(
http://www.concealednation.org/2014/01/introducing-the-glock-42/ (http://www.concealednation.org/2014/01/introducing-the-glock-42/)
http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=53813 (http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=53813)
Here is a complete article someone posted on glocktalk http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20884582.
I've been looking for something lighter & it looks like this will work well. Seven ounces lighter than my 26.
Youtube ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EVj5NOywSY
A complete write-up is available in the February issue of Guns & Ammo. The pistols vital stats are: 6 + 1 capacity, 13.4 ounces, 5.5 pound trigger DAO, 3-dot sights, and an MSRP of $475.00 USD. It appears to be roughly have the size of Glock's G17. Which will allow for a good purchase on the weapon. Previously, only the Glock Model 28 in .380 ACP was available for law enforcement to acquire. Due to import point-restrictions resulting from the GCA of 1968. This seems like a smart move from a marketing standpoint. Since, Glock was missing-out on this very lucrative market.
The following videos are all from Glock USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8C5Y4r5FDk first look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEl-2RmeZhM close up & field strip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo-zBdJRluI at the range
.380, what a disappointment. :'(
And too large for a pocket gun. Losing...
I find it interesting that Glock is using a dual RSA for a cartridge that is often used in blow back designs. Especially with a slide that size.
The slide is substantially smaller than any other Glock since the G42 weighs 7 ounces less than a G26.
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 05:41:38 AM MST
The slide is substantially smaller than any other Glock since the G42 weighs 7 ounces less than a G26.
Yes I know. But it is bigger than most of the other .380 ultra compacts we see out there today, for example Ruger, Smith, and Colt. In other words, it won't be akin to firing an LCP.
Quote from: 4949shooter on January 05 2014 05:46:41 AM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 05:41:38 AM MST
The slide is substantially smaller than any other Glock since the G42 weighs 7 ounces less than a G26.
Yes I know. But it is bigger than most of the other .380 ultra compacts we see out there today, for example Ruger, Smith, and Colt. In other words, it won't be akin to firing an LCP.
And yet it is still bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm, which makes it a total loser.
Quote from: Rich10 on January 05 2014 07:11:26 AM MST
Quote from: 4949shooter on January 05 2014 05:46:41 AM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 05:41:38 AM MST
The slide is substantially smaller than any other Glock since the G42 weighs 7 ounces less than a G26.
Yes I know. But it is bigger than most of the other .380 ultra compacts we see out there today, for example Ruger, Smith, and Colt. In other words, it won't be akin to firing an LCP.
And yet it is still bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm, which makes it a total loser.
It might be. The point of my post being, with a larger slide and dual RSA, Glock may be thinking of a single stack 9mm for the future.
I don't whether it uses a dual recoil spring is a good indication of whether Glock will introduce a 9mm on the same platform. I think that is more of a marketing or durability decision. I think what is more important is how narrow the slide is at .836 inches. That is less than the Kahr PM9 at .9 inches. The Kahr weighs more than 2 ounces more than the G42. Can a 9mm be built as small as the G42 and sill be durable/reliable and stand up to tens of thousands of rounds of ammo? I don't know. Are there other examples that have?
Don't know. My thought was that Glock made an awfully durable gun for a .380. They slimmed down the slide for the G36 and 30S also, and even the new Glock .45, so my thinking was perhaps they were planning a single stack 9mm of the same or similar size. I could be wrong though.
Time will tell..
Quote from: Rich10 on January 05 2014 07:11:26 AM MST
Quote from: 4949shooter on January 05 2014 05:46:41 AM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 05:41:38 AM MST
The slide is substantially smaller than any other Glock since the G42 weighs 7 ounces less than a G26.
Yes I know. But it is bigger than most of the other .380 ultra compacts we see out there today, for example Ruger, Smith, and Colt. In other words, it won't be akin to firing an LCP.
And yet it is still bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm, which makes it a total loser.
Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter. And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.
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Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter. And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.
I carry a Diamondback DB9, which is actually 'the' smallest and lightest out there. .80" wide, 12.8 oz with empty mag, 6+1 no +P, 4.0" height, 5.6" length.
I missed the DB9 while trying to search to see if there was anything currently produced that was slimmer. Diamondback actually lists the weight as 11 ounces (perhaps w/o a mag). How is it to shoot at that light weight & small grips? I find my G20 more comfortable to shoot than my G26, particularly weak handed.
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 01:42:17 PM MST
Quote from: Rich10 on January 05 2014 07:11:26 AM MST
Quote from: 4949shooter on January 05 2014 05:46:41 AM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 05 2014 05:41:38 AM MST
The slide is substantially smaller than any other Glock since the G42 weighs 7 ounces less than a G26.
Yes I know. But it is bigger than most of the other .380 ultra compacts we see out there today, for example Ruger, Smith, and Colt. In other words, it won't be akin to firing an LCP.
And yet it is still bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm, which makes it a total loser.
Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter. And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.
Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.
It's a bit of a handful to shoot, but better than the Rohrbaugh R9 I had. The grip distance (front to back) is nice for better control and it doesn't feel like it's going to jump out of your hand.
Quote from: StockIIBoss on January 06 2014 07:34:39 AM MST
It's a bit of a handful to shoot, but better than the Rohrbaugh R9 I had. The grip distance (front to back) is nice for better control and it doesn't feel like it's going to jump out of your hand.
I also have a Boberg XR9-S. It's .96" wide, and 5.1" long (yet has a 3.35" barrel). I carry it in a wallet holster. It's comparatively heavy for a pocket gun at 17 oz, though (IMO). It's a 7+1 rated for +P and +P+, and something you can shoot all day long with its minimal recoil. However, .80" vs .96" is a difference I can really feel.
That little Ruger LCP was a neat concept, I just have to wonder how it would handle the Underwood loadings! :o
Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter. And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.
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Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.
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For me, the width & primarily weight are what I am considering more than anything else. My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces. I have no trouble concealing it. When I want something lighter I carry a Glock 26. However, I really want something lighter for running, cycling, or just when I don't feel like lugging around a big chunk. Loaded, the Glock 42 will be around 8 or more ounces lighter than the 26. My first consideration for a carry gun has always been how easy & proficient can I be with it. How easy is it to carry or conceal has been much lesser considerations. I've considered something really tiny like an LCP, but I've been hesitant to go that small.
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces.
Why did I just get this picture of you shotgunning a beer and smashing the can on your forehead?? :)) :)) :))
Just playin'. No, really!!
Please don't hurt me... ;)
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter. And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.
Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.
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For me, the width & primarily weight are what I am considering more than anything else. My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces. I have no trouble concealing it. When I want something lighter I carry a Glock 26. However, I really want something lighter for running, cycling, or just when I don't feel like lugging around a big chunk. Loaded, the Glock 42 will be around 8 or more ounces lighter than the 26. My first consideration for a carry gun has always been how easy & proficient can I be with it. How easy is it to carry or conceal has been much lesser considerations. I've considered something really tiny like an LCP, but I've been hesitant to go that small.
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I understand what you are saying. For me, my first consideration for a CCW is caliber. In my case, I choose to carry nothing lighter than a 9x19.
My next consideration is reliability. Following that is size and typically I choose to carry the largest pistol that I can conceal well.
That is why I said that length, height, and grip are more important to me than weight. I think that the biggest obstacle to concealing a weapon well is the grip length (that is why a G26 may be easier to conceal than a G19, the grip length, not barrel length).
I typically carry a G19c in a hybrid IWB holster. It works well in 95% of circumstances. For the other few percent (such as running or when really deep concealment is required), I chose a Kahr CM9 or CW9 in a AIWB rig and they are undetectable.
The CM9 is a handful. I have learned to shoot proficiently with it and actually enjoy shooting it now. I think with proper training you can shoot any handgun proficiently.
So, FWIW, which is not much ;) , my personal criteria is what leads me to believe that the G42 is a loser.
Of course, YMMV.
It's of no interest to me.
A slim single stack compact 9mm by Glock would have been something I would buy.
Quote from: yankee2500 on January 06 2014 07:22:20 PM MST
It's of no interest to me.
A slim single stack compact 9mm by Glock would have been something I would buy.
I agree.
Glock has jumped the Mod G40. My guess it is the 9mm on the same platform as the G42. Just working out the bugs for now.
Quote from: StockIIBoss on January 06 2014 01:03:03 PM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces.
Why did I just get this picture of you shotgunning a beer and smashing the can on your forehead?? :)) :)) :))
Just playin'. No, really!!
Please don't hurt me... ;)
That's hilarious. I am a John Belushi fan. I could watch Animal House anytime :D
Quote from: Rich10 on January 06 2014 01:24:56 PM MST
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 06 2014 09:53:25 AM MST
Bigger than some company's offerings in 9mm only in length & height. Only the Rohrbaugh R9 is narrower or lighter. And, it is only .24 ounces lighter. They recommend standard pressure loads only, no +p or +p+ load. And, from what I've read they do not recommend extensive shooting thru their pistol as it is built so light.
Length and height, and grip length, matter more to me than thickness in a ccw.
For me, the width & primarily weight are what I am considering more than anything else. My normal EDC is a Glock 20 with a Streamlight TLR-1 in a kydex 101 Holster. Weight loaded is around 44 ounces. I have no trouble concealing it. When I want something lighter I carry a Glock 26. However, I really want something lighter for running, cycling, or just when I don't feel like lugging around a big chunk. Loaded, the Glock 42 will be around 8 or more ounces lighter than the 26. My first consideration for a carry gun has always been how easy & proficient can I be with it. How easy is it to carry or conceal has been much lesser considerations. I've considered something really tiny like an LCP, but I've been hesitant to go that small.
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I understand what you are saying. For me, my first consideration for a CCW is caliber. In my case, I choose to carry nothing lighter than a 9x19.
My next consideration is reliability. Following that is size and typically I choose to carry the largest pistol that I can conceal well.
That is why I said that length, height, and grip are more important to me than weight. I think that the biggest obstacle to concealing a weapon well is the grip length (that is why a G26 may be easier to conceal than a G19, the grip length, not barrel length).
I typically carry a G19c in a hybrid IWB holster. It works well in 95% of circumstances. For the other few percent (such as running or when really deep concealment is required), I chose a Kahr CM9 or CW9 in a AIWB rig and they are undetectable.
The CM9 is a handful. I have learned to shoot proficiently with it and actually enjoy shooting it now. I think with proper training you can shoot any handgun proficiently.
So, FWIW, which is not much ;) , my personal criteria is what leads me to believe that the G42 is a loser.
Of course, YMMV.
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How proficient are you with the CM9 compared with the 26? And, how much did you have to work with the CM9 to become proficient?
I would prefer to stay with a 9 as well. However, I'm concerned about how difficult it is to control something as light as the CM9, Diamonback DB9, or a Glock 42 if it were in 9. Hickok45 says the DB9 is a handful. He still shoots it well as he does all handguns, but if he says it is a handful then it may be a bit more than I would prefer. I prefer to carry something that I am extremely proficient with rather than a specific caliber.
I am planning on purchasing 2 small hanguns for both my wife & I. I prefer that they both be the identical models & calibers. She handles the Glock 20 well & even our 4 5/8" barreled Super Blackhawk with moderate loads. But I don't believe she'll care for a 9mm in something that weighs under 14 ounces.
Quote from: DAVIDF on January 08 2014 09:07:11 AM MST
How proficient are you with the CM9 compared with the 26? And, how much did you have to work with the CM9 to become proficient?
I would prefer to stay with a 9 as well. However, I'm concerned about how difficult it is to control something as light as the CM9, Diamonback DB9, or a Glock 42 if it were in 9. Hickok45 says the DB9 is a handful. He still shoots it well as he does all handguns, but if he says it is a handful then it may be a bit more than I would prefer. I prefer to carry something that I am extremely proficient with rather than a specific caliber.
I am planning on purchasing 2 small hanguns for both my wife & I. I prefer that they both be the identical models & calibers. She handles the Glock 20 well & even our 4 5/8" barreled Super Blackhawk with moderate loads. But I don't believe she'll care for a 9mm in something that weighs under 14 ounces.
It's kind of difficult to measure how proficient I am with it. I haven't used it in a pistol course or anything like that. For that I would use my 17 or 19, and the reason I wouldn't use the CM9 in a course is due to the mag capacity and grip length (it's a little short).
I found that I could shoot the CM9 or CW9 better than a G26. The CM9 and CW9 are single stack and even though the grip is shorter, the thin grip makes for a more controllable pistol overall.
I would think if your wife can handle a G20 or Super Blackhawk (.357 I guess?), she can handle a micro 9mm.
Take a drive to a legs. Handle the CM9, CW9, db9, LC9, etc.....
Thanks Rich10,
I've handled a CM9 & P380. They both feel good. I like the trigger on them pretty well. Nice to hear that you can shoot the CM9 & CW9 better than the 26. I would have thought the results would be the other way around. Rented an earlier model LCP not this years with the improved sights & trigger. It was fairly easy to be accurate with it to my suprise.
Our Super Blackhawk is in 44 mag. That is one of the guns she is more accurate with.
Quote from: Steve4102 on December 13 2013 12:25:52 AM MST
Double stack 380?
http://thegunwire.com/blog/youtube-video-thefirearmguy-glock-42-thinnest-glock-yet-true-or-false/
It may not be a true "Double Stack", but the Mag is wider than a Single Stack
Wonder what Loader MagLULA plans to use with this one ?
The UpLULA won't load it, the Beak's too wide
The Magazine is too wide for the BabyUpLULA
And the new 22UpLULA will ONLY load Rimfire Rounds
I asked Guy Tal (One of the Head Guys at MagLULA) why they made the 22UpLULA for Rimfires only and I got the usual double talk, that translates into;
"Why sell one Loader, when you can force your Customers to buy two or three".....Now maybe a forth !
Ahh. Glock and their one man engineering department. No they cant even habe one engineer. Maybe someone tbat stops by once a decade. They havent had an original thought aince the glock 36 12 years ago. If their existing guns werent so good they would go out of business. Yawn Nother .380... and a warmed over glock 21...yawn...
Ill probably smuggle a 41 into california (sse) just cuz :-) but no way am I buying a 52 when Springfield is making the xds and kahr is making the pm9. If I could carry any of my guns at once the 42 would be nice for a pocket but I can only put 3 guns on my carry permit.
My spelling on mobile is atrocious.
I just thought you were celebrating early :))
That is riduculous that you have to have a list of guns on your permit! I can carry anything I like here in Florida that I can manage to conceal.
I'm waiting to see a G42 & I'm still planning on purchasing at least one. I've been wanting something much lighter than my G26 but haven't found anything that I'm real interested in.
I'm not a big .380 fan, but this thing tripped my switch. It shoots like a much larger pistol.
Ha davidf I wish. On night shifts this week so get stuck losting via phone. Yeah our gun laws here suck soooooo bad. Gets worse every year. For now I am so thankful of living in a county that actually respects the 2nd amendment and issues voncealed carry permits. Most residents in the soviet republic of california are not allowed due to county by county issuance that depends on the CLEO of that county. Never ever ever let any state do a "safe handgun roster" ours started with a test to weed out guns that fire when dropped and they have fucked it up so bad manufacturers cant even"renew " the fees to keep selling their gun.
They added:
Magazine disconnnect
loaded chamber rooster flag
microstamping
No new gun can be sold unless it had all 3 of those and the old ones that change in any way even just Glock switching to USA gen 3 production from Austria counts as a whole new gun and would need to have all of those features.
Remember, only in the bat shit crazy state of California can a gun that was once "certified not unsafe" will become "not certified not unsafe" simply by the manufacturer failure to keep paying the yearly extortion fee.