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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm Ammo pull-downs => Topic started by: The_Shadow on October 26 2013 05:25:31 PM MDT

Title: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 26 2013 05:25:31 PM MDT
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Crossfire  Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide)
Ballistics Information: 10mm Auto
Muzzle Velocity: 1600 fps
Muzzle Energy: 795 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass (Black Oxide)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.7020"/Dia. 0.3990": 140 grain Barnes TAC-XP w(Black Oxide)
Actual weigh 139.0 grains  Crimp Diameter 0.3890"
HP depth  HP 0.3095" / HP dia. 0.1950" / mouth 0.2465"
C.O.A.L.: 1.2500"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.4215" Crimp Diameter 0.4190" (tight) Length 0.9880"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? Silhouette ? 10.8 grains (Milo said the 10mm powder isn't #5.)
Tested Velocity: 1607, 1600, 1600, 1604. Average = 1602.75 FPS/ 799 LBS

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Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on October 26 2013 07:08:47 PM MDT
Not Long Shot huh. How sure on the powder?
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 26 2013 08:30:04 PM MDT
Most definitely not LongShot!
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on October 26 2013 10:00:18 PM MDT
This one is different. I have shot a ton of stuff! Why is the spread so tight? Anything different in the makeup?
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: 4949shooter on October 27 2013 04:08:36 AM MDT
They must load to stringent specifications. I bet if Shadow pulls ten of these the powder charges are extremely close in weight.

The bullets they are using are probably top notch in consistency also.
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on October 27 2013 04:33:22 AM MDT
   The other thing I noticed is the sound and recoil when I shoot one of these. It's the second highest performer I have ever shot but doesn't recoil like it. It also doesn't make a big boom like a hot loaded round does. When I shoot one of these I have to do a double-take, because it's not what you expect but the Chronograph shows it over and over again within 10 FPS. Does that coating have anything to do with how it might release the bullet or something?
    Hopefully someone else purchases a box and can give a second report of what they think compared to other  rounds they have shot. When The Shadow and Raggedyman shoot these I would like to hear their feedback!
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 27 2013 08:17:11 AM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on October 26 2013 10:00:18 PM MDT
This one is different. I have shot a ton of stuff! Why is the spread so tight? Anything different in the makeup?

AA#5 is a faster burning powder thus more consistent.  One thing I can add is these bullets were tough to hammer out, they were held tight!  The one in the 44mag I thought I was going to break my kinetic bullet puller, it was a sum-a-bitch! :o 
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on October 27 2013 10:21:12 AM MDT
   It's really not like anything I have shot in the past. Mr.Redbull has some now to run in his G20 I sent him. That will be interesting to see his numbers and thoughts.
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 28 2013 08:55:57 AM MDT
Modified the original post Intercooler heard from Crossfire;
QuoteMilo said the 10mm powder isn't #5.
Title: Re: Crossfire Black Max 140 grain SCHP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on October 28 2013 02:26:05 PM MDT
 I'm updating the sheet to Ramshot Silhouette. That's the stuff!  ;D


  I knew it was different. Now the big question is the noise it makes and the recoil. This and the Grizzly 9mm give similar feedback which I hope you all see.