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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm Ammo pull-downs => Topic started by: The_Shadow on October 26 2013 03:18:10 PM MDT

Title: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 26 2013 03:18:10 PM MDT
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Armscor  180gr  FMJ (brass jacket)
Ballistics Information: 10mm Auto
Muzzle Velocity: 1150 fps
Muzzle Energy: 529 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: A USA - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6040"/Dia. 0.4005":  180gr. FMJ (brass jacket)(maybe Montana Gold)
Actual weigh 180.8 grains  Crimp Diameter 0.4000" 
Meplat 0.2640" / Concaved Base
C.O.A.L.: 1.2550" / 1.2550"
Primer: Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.4200" Crimp Diameter 0.4225" Length 0.9860"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: ? TiteGroup ? 6.4 grains
Test Velocity: 1161, 1162, 1153, 1164, 1154, 1141. Average = 1155.83 FPS/ 534 LBS

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Title: Re: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: tommac919 on October 26 2013 04:13:27 PM MDT
tks ...good info on crimp

Title: Re: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 26 2013 04:17:47 PM MDT
You can read from the data that there isn't much crimp being applied, as the bullet did not have a crimp line or crush.
Bullet pull was about medium hold.  The Littlestone ammo showed much less crimp... ???
Title: Re: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: tommac919 on October 26 2013 04:24:16 PM MDT
yes... but it just fit the call on I thread I posted.

I was wondering as to the taper crimp...on my test runs of 10mm. I have no crush line, heads to .3995- .400, but still mid hold.  I'm taking the numbers to comare to mine.  As long as the set lenght is good and I can't push/pull easy, I'm assuming its ok, but had no data.
Title: Re: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: Filthy Phil on October 27 2013 09:00:33 AM MDT
How do these shoot in glock 20?
would this or ppu be beta?
both are under 40c/rd on gunbot
Title: Re: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 27 2013 09:35:32 AM MDT
To Filthy Phil, Both should be good blastin' rounds for proficiency drills or just target play...

To tommac919, More info on the bullet hold, those Armscor cases appear to be shorter @ 0.9860 instead of the 0.9880", that would yield less crimping and also the cases are sized down more @ 0.4200" and being stretched out by the bullet as seated @ 0.4225", therefore the bullet is firmly held despite not much crimp to mark the bullet.  Remember the 10mm is straight walled case, unlike the 9mm which is tapered wall.
Title: Re: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: Filthy Phil on October 27 2013 09:37:19 AM MDT
^^thanks
Are both brass worth saving?
Title: Re: Armscor 180gr FMJ (brass jacket) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on October 27 2013 10:55:39 AM MDT
I have reused both PPU and A USA brass without issue...there were some reports of others having had cracks and splits on the initial firings of the factory loads a while back.  Not everyone retrieves there brass and inspects so how many is hard to tell.
Although I haven't seen any recent post of issues.