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Title: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 02 2012 08:22:39 PM MDT
Not just 10mm's...

The 4th is coming up and cannons tend to be very handy. :D

Below is a .69 cal Traditions black powder cannon with my old G20. Nice conversation piece but also functional, just have to remember to give your neighbors a heads-up.

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b23/uz2busmc/DSC00472.jpg)
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 02 2012 08:35:55 PM MDT
Whoa.  I think I need a CANNON.

In that .690 caliber, what are we talkin for ball weight and velocity? 
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 02 2012 08:39:34 PM MDT
Don't know velocity but the balls are 400+grns. They do a bit of damage ;D
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: The_Shadow on July 02 2012 08:44:42 PM MDT
Nice cannon, the one I have "Canon" I take pictures with...although I have wanted to build a tennis ball cannon but never did yet! :'(
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 02 2012 08:46:45 PM MDT
Does it operate off standard black powder?  If so, how much per launch?
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 02 2012 08:48:31 PM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 02 2012 08:44:42 PM MDT
Nice cannon, the one I have "Canon" I take pictures with...although I have wanted to build a tennis ball cannon but never did yet! :'(

Times not up, you should get on that project!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 02 2012 08:52:45 PM MDT
Quote from: REDLINE on July 02 2012 08:46:45 PM MDT
Does it operate off standard black powder?  If so, how much per launch?

Blackpowder or triple 7, bout 85grns (bit less with trip 7). That's with projectile, you can double that if you just want to make noise. Well, noise and some fire...
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 02 2012 09:01:34 PM MDT
Are fuses any big deal?  How much does that thing move after firing?
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 02 2012 09:10:33 PM MDT
Nah, fuses are no big. Just gotta order the right one, instruction spell that out. If you are firing a ball you either have to have it strapped down or have room for it to roll... which is probably 10' on smooth ground!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 02 2012 09:13:35 PM MDT
I'm wondering about trajectory.  Thoughts on it taking out a deer at 20 yards?
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 02 2012 09:22:58 PM MDT
Talking ballistics, yea, shot placement... not so much. Then there is the fuse issue...
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 02 2012 09:27:25 PM MDT
How long does it take a "standard" fuse to burn down?  Is it like an average firecracker fuse?
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 02 2012 09:30:58 PM MDT
Similar to a firecracker "green" fuse, think they have ratings for burn time per inch. Been a while since I last checked. Actually, it's been a while since I fired the little beast!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 02 2012 09:33:22 PM MDT
I can see having a bit too much fun with that at the cabin in the far north woods.  What's a cannon like yours go for new?
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: sqlbullet on July 03 2012 07:54:56 AM MDT
I can see that being wicked fun.  Not this time of year in my area...Too much dry tinder.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 03 2012 02:28:21 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on July 03 2012 07:54:56 AM MDT
I can see that being wicked fun.  Not this time of year in my area...Too much dry tinder.

They're defenitely a blast. I'm guessing fireworks is a no go in your area too?
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Turo on July 03 2012 10:22:32 PM MDT
Yeah, my dad's building this one.  It'll be done tomorrow (pic is from a couple months ago).

I actually just saw the nearly completed cannon today, and it blew me away.  My dad really put a lot of work into it, and it's going to be awesome.

1-3/4" bore, 26" length barrel, ammo is steel ball weighing about 1 pound, charge weight is unsure right now, but we have to build up a load tomorrow.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t266/Turophiliac/20111217_14393914.jpg)
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: DM1906 on July 03 2012 10:35:51 PM MDT
Wow! Purdy.  That pegs the cool meter.  Maybe get up to full 10mm power with that one!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 04 2012 06:23:03 AM MDT
Turo, that is bad @-- ! You gotta get pics of the finished product.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 04 2012 01:07:50 PM MDT
Quote from: Turo on July 03 2012 10:22:32 PM MDT
Yeah, my dad's building this one.

Wow.  That is awesome.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: The_Shadow on July 04 2012 02:29:52 PM MDT
Quote from: Turo on July 03 2012 10:22:32 PM MDT
Yeah, my dad's building this one.  It'll be done tomorrow (pic is from a couple months ago).

I actually just saw the nearly completed cannon today, and it blew me away.  My dad really put a lot of work into it, and it's going to be awesome.

1-3/4" bore, 26" length barrel, ammo is steel ball weighing about 1 pound, charge weight is unsure right now, but we have to build up a load tomorrow.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t266/Turophiliac/20111217_14393914.jpg)

Awesome piece...if the bore were 2.5" it would be an excellent tennis ball shooter!
Title: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Deadeye74 on July 04 2012 05:56:00 PM MDT
Turo, that is a beautiful piece!

Too bad I'm in NJ, land of the commie gun rules. I can't buy an M1 Carbine legally, let alone a cannon.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 04 2012 06:15:13 PM MDT
Quote from: Deadeye74 on July 04 2012 05:56:00 PM MDT
Turo, that is a beautiful piece!

Too bad I'm in NJ, land of the commie gun rules. I can't buy an M1 Carbine legally, let alone a cannon.

Cannons fall under diferent rules, you should check it out in your area. They are considered replicas in my area.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Turo on July 04 2012 06:59:23 PM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 04 2012 02:29:52 PM MDT


Awesome piece...if the bore were 2.5" it would be an excellent tennis ball shooter!

But, it's a 1-3/4" bore, it's a perfect size for golf balls :D.

Speaking of which, me and my dad got to do a final assembly today and do a blank test fire, here's a picture of the final build and I'll update with the video of a test fire once it's uploaded to YouTube.

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t266/Turophiliac/20120704_130547.jpg)
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: The_Shadow on July 04 2012 07:15:02 PM MDT
WOW!  That came together very nice... Great job!  8)
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 04 2012 07:32:34 PM MDT
Quote from: Turo on July 04 2012 06:59:23 PM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 04 2012 02:29:52 PM MDT


Awesome piece...if the bore were 2.5" it would be an excellent tennis ball shooter!

But, it's a 1-3/4" bore, it's a perfect size for golf balls :D.

Speaking of which, me and my dad got to do a final assembly today and do a blank test fire, here's a picture of the final build and I'll update with the video of a test fire once it's uploaded to YouTube.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t266/Turophiliac/20120704_130547.jpg)

Man, that's awsome!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Turo on July 04 2012 07:41:03 PM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 04 2012 07:15:02 PM MDT
WOW!  That came together very nice... Great job!  8)
It's taken him almost 6 months to get it this far, staying late after work and going in on weekends.  We just drilled the flash hole today and test fired it a couple times before this video.  I have to say, it scared the crap out of me when it fired this time.  Also, I forgot to wear ear plugs for this one, ears are still ringing a little.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Turo on July 04 2012 08:07:36 PM MDT
It took some doing, but I finally got the video uploaded to YouTube.  This was about the 3rd test fire, using progressively larger charges.  This was 1 ounce of fffg pyrodex and about 5-6 inches of packed paper wadding.  Watch your speakers, the video is a little loud:
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: The_Shadow on July 04 2012 08:37:59 PM MDT
"SAFETY NOTE" Here is a word to the wise, never stand directly in front of the cannon barrel bore...any spark or even static and even hammering too much could set the charge off.  I am quite sure no one wants a stick or blast to their body! :o

On an Anvil Shoot a fellow was seriously hurt when his charge blew up before it was even set!   ???
Title: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Deadeye74 on July 04 2012 10:01:35 PM MDT
Quote from: uz2bUSMC on July 04 2012 06:15:13 PM MDT
Quote from: Deadeye74 on July 04 2012 05:56:00 PM MDT
Turo, that is a beautiful piece!

Too bad I'm in NJ, land of the commie gun rules. I can't buy an M1 Carbine legally, let alone a cannon.

Cannons fall under diferent rules, you should check it out in your area. They are considered replicas in my area.

I'm pretty sure it's a no no. NJ does not recognize C&R or replicas. BB guns are considered firearms here and you need a permit to buy. Same goes for black powder kit guns and such that can be bought off the shelf in our neighboring states. On top of that, a big majority of our towns have no discharge ordinances so unless you go to a range, you can't even shoot on your own property!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Turo on July 05 2012 12:09:09 AM MDT
Quote from: Deadeye74 on July 04 2012 10:01:35 PM MDT

I'm pretty sure it's a no no. NJ does not recognize C&R or replicas. BB guns are considered firearms here and you need a permit to buy. Same goes for black powder kit guns and such that can be bought off the shelf in our neighboring states. On top of that, a big majority of our towns have no discharge ordinances so unless you go to a range, you can't even shoot on your own property!

Yowch!  Black powder muzzle loaders aren't even considered firearms here in CA, and I thought our gun laws sucked.  I feel for ya man.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 05 2012 05:36:16 AM MDT
Dang, brotha, that's terrible. I hate it for people in your situation.
Title: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Deadeye74 on July 05 2012 07:36:50 AM MDT
Jersey is rough. We have the NJ Second Amendment Society that's working hard to get rid of the feel good BS laws we have to protect the criminals. Hopefully soon things will get easier for us!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: sqlbullet on July 05 2012 09:13:33 AM MDT
Good luck to you with those gun laws!
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 06 2012 03:56:44 PM MDT
Quote from: Turo on July 04 2012 08:07:36 PM MDT
It took some doing, but I finally got the video uploaded to YouTube.  This was about the 3rd test fire, using progressively larger charges.  This was 1 ounce of fffg pyrodex and about 5-6 inches of packed paper wadding.  Watch your speakers, the video is a little loud:


Always love a big boom.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Yondering on July 06 2012 04:30:09 PM MDT
I have one, more of a mortar really, that shoots soda cans and 20 oz. pop bottles, spray paint cans, etc. The pop bottles can be shot a lot further (filled with water) because they are stronger than the cans, which tend to shred apart. Soda cans full of gasoline are fun though, with a heavy enough charge to shred them in the barrel so the gas ignites... You don't want to stand close to that.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 06 2012 05:16:34 PM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on July 06 2012 04:30:09 PM MDT
Soda cans full of gasoline are fun though, with a heavy enough charge to shred them in the barrel so the gas ignites... You don't want to stand close to that.

We definitely need some video footage of that! :o
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: Turo on July 06 2012 05:30:14 PM MDT
Quote from: REDLINE on July 06 2012 05:16:34 PM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on July 06 2012 04:30:09 PM MDT
Soda cans full of gasoline are fun though, with a heavy enough charge to shred them in the barrel so the gas ignites... You don't want to stand close to that.

We definitely need some video footage of that! :o
I want to see that too!

There was talk about making a mortar at one point between me and my dad, but I think that one will have to wait a bit.
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: REDLINE on July 06 2012 09:17:43 PM MDT
Quote from: Turo on July 06 2012 05:30:14 PM MDTThere was talk about making a mortar at one point between me and my dad, but I think that one will have to wait a bit.

Chicken!!!...bauk bauk bauk.................JUST KIDDING :D

Fun Stuff though!  Well, assuming acceptable understandings and safety measures are met. 8)
Title: Re: Anybody into cannons?
Post by: uz2bUSMC on July 07 2012 08:33:41 PM MDT
Yep, need some vids of the mortar. 8)