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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on June 12 2012 07:34:32 PM MDT

Title: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and MAC Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 12 2012 07:34:32 PM MDT
   In the past I always did everything out of the Match and a few with the 6" Hunter. Should I stay with that or would everyone be more interested in the 5" Razorback results?

I will be back from Jamaica/Wedding in a week and will video these.

Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: sqlbullet on June 13 2012 12:49:03 PM MDT
I think the Match is a good gun to use.  The 4.75" barrel is pretty representative of what people tend to carry in 10mm  You can extrapolate from there if needed.
Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: pacapcop on June 13 2012 10:58:10 PM MDT
Speaking of the Match,im wipeing new grease off my new Match 10mm as I write.Im not going to talk it up till a range report is reported.However,i got to get adjusted to the S/A.Im a D/A type,so it's a change.One thing is the mag,it's for sure a black follower and more stiff as opposed to those red followers.We will see.Reading off slide,lettering is stateing"Combat Sport 10".Is that common on the Match?Henning Guide Rod enroute as well as 18lb spring.Keeping this regulated to close to Norma Specs.Not intrested in Super Nuke stuff.Im aware it can shoot the nuke,thank's to Intercooler and his devoted and undivided time spent testing.Gun reminds me of my .45 Witness from the 90's,just lighter.One thing,the grip's are plastic.I was more familar with the rubber..Only negative at moment.Also,i ordered from Midway the 15 rnd mag adverstised,it's a Mec-Gar,the same with gun purchace.One thing i wanted to add.This particular gun is rising in price.
Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: sqlbullet on June 14 2012 08:17:45 AM MDT
Mine says "Match" on the side in a script.  Works fine for me, as most just glance at it and think it says "Mitch", which is the name I am know by in real life.

EAA I think plays mix and match from time to time.  I hope yours is as solid as mine.
Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: pacapcop on June 14 2012 10:10:52 PM MDT
Recieved my Henning Cone Guide Rod and 18lb Wolff Spring.At first,man was it a tight attempt to get the rod and spring to put in.Had to use a little muscle but she went in.The factory spring with Henning was a breeze.The mags fit well,one from Eaa the other from Midway,both new Mec-Gar K10's.Will replace fire pin block with the Henning.
Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: sqlbullet on June 15 2012 09:24:55 PM MDT
Good luck!  Looking forward to a range report.
Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 16 2012 07:56:10 AM MDT
You should be set to go. The block is worth it from my experiences.
Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 20 2012 10:20:28 PM MDT
I hope to get these tested tomorrow. Parabellum 165gr. rated at 1200 FPS. Kind of different boxing which I actually like, all new Starline brass, CCI primers and looks like XTP bullets? Looks like decent ammo!


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Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and Mac Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 20 2012 10:31:25 PM MDT
Testing these 200gr. Parabellum FMJ's tomorrow as well. They are new Starline brass, CCI primer and looks like BVAC bullet (Montana Gold). See what they give tomorrow!

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Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and MAC Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 20 2012 10:59:45 PM MDT
Here is the MAC Ammo 165gr. I will also be testing tomorrow.

Green-Munition (Cali special) lead-free primer
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New Starline Nickel plated brass, unknown primer and looks like Montana Gold HP bullet
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You get a trading card in each box. Has a weapon with details on the back so kind of neat.
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Packed two twenty round trays per box
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Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and MAC Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 21 2012 11:32:51 AM MDT
Went testing trying to get it in ASAP before the heat hit. I was a sweaty mess as today is one of our hottest so far, 90 degrees with 72% humidity. I was steady drinking water and wiping sweat with a rag, but did them all.

PBR Ammo 165gr. JHP (Match ) 1364, 1344, 1351, 1382, 1371. Average = 1362.4 FPS/ 679.90 LBS  My Match seems to really love 165's! The rating is 1300 FPS, so it exceeded and is real 10mm.
PBR Ammo 165gr. JHP (Razorback) 1358, 1385, 1349, 1356, 1369. Average = 1363.4 FPS/ 680.90 LBS  Maybe not the sweet bullet weight for the Razorback.
PBR Ammo 165gr. JHP (Hunter) 1428, 1464, 1441, 1418, 1446. Average = 1439.4 FPS/ 758.92 LBS  Picked up nicely with the 6" barrel!
PBR Ammo 200gr. FMJ (Match) 1065, 1101, 1115, 1075, 1134. Average = 1098 FPS/ 535.28 LBS  Not the strongest out there... not bad though and real 10mm.

MAC Ammo 165gr JHP (Match) 1324, 1271, 1329, 1270, 1310. Average = 1300.8 FPS/ 619.80 LBS  The rating is 1300 FPS, so it met claims and is real 10mm.

All the brass looked nice with no issues or pressure signs.

**Below is just so I can copy and paste once**

PBR Ammo 125gr JHP (GP100) 1420, 1437, 1472, 1446, 1444, 1409. Average = 1438 FPS/ 573.82 LBS
PBR Ammo 158gr JSP (GP100)  1314, 1359, 1290, 1289. Average = 1313 FPS/ 604.69 LBS
American Eagle 158gr JSP (GP100) 1276, 1299, 1315, 1285. Average = 1293.75 FPS/ 587.09 LBS

 
Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and MAC Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 21 2012 12:10:46 PM MDT
Updated sheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak5OC6bPsjO8dEh6eGZ3N3hpUU13SXM5cm9pZy16T0E#gid=0




I always give the good with the bad and one of the PBR .357's had a rupture. It was Federal nickel plated brass reloaded. My suggestion is buy the new stuff. It didn't hurt my GP100 but in something else, who knows. Kind of like the Armscor brass splits...


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Title: Re: Testing Parabellum Research Ammo and MAC Ammo
Post by: Intercooler on June 21 2012 01:19:42 PM MDT
Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEvj-97gGzs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYnLHYOyUm4&feature=plcp