Anybody carry a pocket gun? One that actual fits with room to spare and no bulging. I've been thinking of getting one. Just always wanted one for some reason. Thinking a .25 or 32 acp
Brother always has his 22mag. I think it is an american arms.
Anybody got any recommendations or ones to stay away from as far as quality goes.
Any reviews on that double 45acp . I think it fires both at one time can't remember the name of it. Be a last resort gun shooting to 45s at once.
Lots of .22LR and mags out there. .25's are junk, in any form. .32's are only slightly better. Otherwise, look at the LCP (Ruger) and Pico (Beretta) .380's. The Pico is far and away the best weapon.
I am interested in one as well. One for the coat pocket and I like the Shield for that role in 9mm. Manual safety as well. Little bigger than a mouse gun but could serve the purpose. Currently have a .25 Beretta from 1989 flip top 950, but it's served it's purpose back then. Beretta flip tops are nice and user friendly. .32 Cal
For $399 that Pico is impressive. Beretta makes a quality product!
Don't own a .380 and always thought having any pocket pistol it should be 9mm instead (ammo cost too). Very nice though!
I think I would want the Lasermax version when it's out.
Pocket pistols are belly guns. Don't sweat the sights. Any sights. If you're far enough away you need sights, you're out of range. You should be able to hit COM at 7 yds, blindfolded. If not, you or the pistol is not up to the task.
If you think you need more than a .380, look to the LC9. Still small, just not as small. More power is more size. No way around it. The ballistic difference between the 9mm and .380 in a 2" or less pistol is essentially irrelevant.
I pack a S&W m&p 340 (.357) in my front pocket everywhere I go. I usually keep it stoked with buffalo bore 38 +p. Love it!!!
Don't know why but I always wanted the Saturday night special.
My pocket pistol is a Ruger LCP. I love the size and carry it mostly in a Desantis Nemesis holster but also have an ankle holster that gets some use.
Depends what you wantntonspend but here are some I have positive experience with and fit the definition of a pocket gun;
Kahr CW9
Desert Eagle Micro 380
Rohrbaugh
LCR and LCP
I carry a Ruger LCR 357 revolver/125gr. Winchester Silvertip hollow points. I know it's only 5 rounds, but it goes bang every time I pull the trigger, and it's got the best trigger of any DAO revolver on the market. At 17oz., you don't even know it's there.
Keltec P3ATs are small, the LCP is more refined. The little Kahrs are great (but for big hands, have a gunsmith mill down the slide release very thin so as not to hit it with your thumb) the PPKS bit my beefy hand. Your pocket size has a lot to do with it also. I do well with a keltec PF9 in jackets,etc. It even fits well in dress slacks. Good luck to you.
I recently picked up a Ruger LCP for use as a backup gun... small but still easy to handle.
FWIW mine has a CTC laserguard... and I wouldn't have a pocket gun without some kind of laser, as the "sights" on the ones I've handled are pretty awful to small or non-existent LOL
I prefer to carry nothing smaller than 9mm. I've used both a Kahr CM9 and Kahr CW9 as backups or primary carry when the situation dictates. Neither one is detectable when carried IWB at appendix carry. The CM9, despite its size, is fun to shoot.
An LC9 is also a good option.
YMMV......
Hello everybody. I'm kinda new here and I hope to get to know some of you. As per your question, I have a S&W 442 without a lock, it is one of the older J-Frame smiths that they call an Airweight. Mine is a .38. I bought a leather pocket holster years ago and it still works just fine. A S&W J-Frame will just about disappear in a front pocket. I keep mine loaded with 158 grain LSWHP+P's and I feel perfectly safe when carrying my old school revolver. There is a podcast that Massad Ayoob is a part of and while listening to that I heard someone mention a spring kit that Mr. Ayoob had recommended to them for their J-Fame. It isn't a target weight spring kit, but a duty/carry spring kit that changed my trigger-pull from what felt like around fourteen pounds to a much smoother nine pound trigger pull. I would recommend that kit to anyone who carries a J-Frame Smith. If anyone is interested, it is called: Apex Tactical Duty/Carry Spring Kit S&W J-Frame. Good luck to you on your choice.
Larry
I have a S&W Bodyguard .380 ACP with built in laser. I use it in summer months for carry when I'm wearing like shorts and a tee shirt. in a IWB holster.
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i am pretty sure if i ever see a saturday night special at a great price i will buy it.
22mag North American arms black widow
I ordered a Glock 42 yesterday. That will be my pocket pistol. Not nearly as small as an LCP, but I've carried my G26 in my pockets before. The biggest detriment with carrying the G26 in a pocket is the weight. I've been looking for something that is a lot lighter, but nothing has appealed to me to any great extent. I'll probably be carrying the G42 iwb, owb, or in a belly band most of the time. But it will be light enough to carry in a pocket comfortably unlike my G26.
I have been carrying my Rohrbaugh 9mm since 2009, great pocket pistol. All metal construction, small, light and 9mm.
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One of interest I like is the SCCY 9mm. Great reviews.
I used to have a Rohrbaugh R9 as well. Nice looking gun! I carry a Diamondback DB9 now because of the weight, and it's only .8" thick. But, just like the R9, the DB9 is not a range gun. Ouch!
I have tried them all:
-Rohrbaugh - Nice gun, hard for me to get off 7 shots with any speed or accuracy,too small, too slick
Boberg XR9s - Nice gun, Easy to shoot, accurate, a little large
Kahr PM9 - Nice gun, easy to shoot, accurate, a very good choice
Kimber Solo - Another nice gun, easy to shoot, accurate, For me it edges out the PM9 but that is
just personal preference.
Kahr P380 - By far the best 380 in my book, the only trouble with it is it is a 380.
I also have a PM9 and it is a very nice gun, I had a P380 and would agree it is definitely the best of the 380s.
When not carrying my XDS because I need something smaller, I carry a Seecamp 32:
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The NAA .380 ACP works for me, and is augmented by a good knife:
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My CC piece's are a Colt Mustang.380 and a Beretta Nano 9mm.
Now I want a pocket 9 :o
Look into those SCCY's. Great reviews and come double stacked with 10 rnds. Life time warranty to boot. There is a review on You Tube "Torture Test" on those SCCY's. www.GunTortureTests.com
The Warranty follows the gun, not the owner. Sell it, next person gets a covered warranty.
Quote from: Intercooler on February 08 2014 12:15:48 PM MST
Now I want a pocket 9 :o
I carried a Pocket Nine for a couple of years and I still have it. They have gotten too expensive and there are better guns out there now.
JMO
Got the word today that Glock will be releasing a 9mm version of the G42 in 10 months.
Quote from: Jbrody10 on February 01 2014 06:16:32 AM MST
When not carrying my XDS because I need something smaller, I carry a Seecamp 32:
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I had a Seecamp 380 but decided to sell it, great for pocket carry but it sucked to shoot. I also had one of the Double Tap derringers in 45acp, it sucked to shoot too.
Quote from: yankee2500 on February 08 2014 09:32:28 PM MST
Quote from: Jbrody10 on February 01 2014 06:16:32 AM MST
When not carrying my XDS because I need something smaller, I carry a Seecamp 32:
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I had a Seecamp 380 but decided to sell it, great for pocket carry but it sucked to shoot. I also had one of the Double Tap derringers in 45acp, it sucked to shoot too.
I find the 32 very controllable and easy to shoot. I haven't shot the 380 but have heard, as you said, it is uncomfortable to shoot.
I like Seecamps, but in my opinion the guys that are carrying LWS 380's for protection are kidding themselves
The closest thing I can compare shooting a LWS 380 to is having a firecracker go off in your hand which has happened to me.
Quote from: BEEMER! on February 09 2014 06:04:39 PM MST
I like Seecamps, but in my opinion the guys that are carrying LWS 380's for protection are kidding themselves
The closest thing I can compare shooting a LWS 380 to is having a firecracker go off in your hand which has happened to me.
I respect your opinion, but I have no reservations having a 75 grain
hardcast bullet moving 856 ft per second to end a threat.
Quote from: Jbrody10 on February 09 2014 07:23:54 PM MST
Quote from: BEEMER! on February 09 2014 06:04:39 PM MST
I like Seecamps, but in my opinion the guys that are carrying LWS 380's for protection are kidding themselves
The closest thing I can compare shooting a LWS 380 to is having a firecracker go off in your hand which has happened to me.
I respect your opinion, but I have no reservations having a 75 grain hardcast bullet moving 856 ft per second to end a threat.
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Quote from: Jbrody10 on February 09 2014 07:23:54 PM MST
Quote from: BEEMER! on February 09 2014 06:04:39 PM MST
I like Seecamps, but in my opinion the guys that are carrying LWS 380's for protection are kidding themselves
The closest thing I can compare shooting a LWS 380 to is having a firecracker go off in your hand which has happened to me.
I respect your opinion, but I have no reservations having a 75 grain hardcast bullet moving 856 ft per second to end a threat.
It is not the 380 load that I am talking about. There are times when I carry a 380 when what I am wearing does not allow me to carry something larger.
In my opinion, although the LWS380 is small and easily concealed, I feel much more confident with my ability to protect myself with my P380 which also seems to disappear in my pocket.
So many possible choices. In summer months I carry a Kahr CM9 IWB or pocket carry it. In tighter clothing I carry a Ruger LCP. That thing is tiny and will fit any pocket.
For me if I was allowed to carry here in NJ it would be my sig p 232 .380. By far the best 380 out there IMHO. The down side is that it's on the large size ... accuracy is scary good . Scary!
Best of luck finding something your comfortable with.
Brian
Just picked up a Gen 2 "SCCY". Hitting range today so ill have a report. DAO 9mm with double stack mag. 15 oz total weight.
Quote from: pacapcop on March 09 2014 08:03:40 AM MDT
Just picked up a Gen 2 "SCCY". Hitting range today so ill have a report. DAO 9mm with double stack mag. 15 oz total weight.
You got it!
Awesome!!
Gel videos of a .380 Hardcast show it goes a LONG WAY. Regardless of what bone it hits I think it passes through.
Good pistol overall for the money. Snappy as it's 15 ounces empty. Trigger 9lb pull. Definitely had to put sights low. At that point it was on target and groupings were better. First go with it using Federal fmj. Range conditions were sloppy. Ice snow mud but fun.
Sloppy day for the outdoor range!
How many rounds did you fire?
100 rounds. Pistol had 200 thru it prior. Overall impressed. My opinion is a no nonsense pistol for self defense that works. However not for the recoil sensitive.
Gotcha. Sounds like a keeper!
I have to agree with BEEMER the P380 is the best shooting 380 I owned, accurate and comfortable to shoot and very easy to conceal (not quite as easy as the LWS380 but you didn't mind practicing with the Kahr) :D
Quote from: DM1906 on September 08 2013 03:00:47 PM MDT
Pocket pistols are belly guns. Don't sweat the sights. Any sights. If you're far enough away you need sights, you're out of range. You should be able to hit COM at 7 yds, blindfolded. If not, you or the pistol is not up to the task.
Really? FYI I own a little TCP Taurus .380 that I shoot quite respectably with. Took out a big 100+ lb Bull Mastiff with it at 10 feet last year that had grabbed my dog by the neck while I was walking him on a reel leash. I put 2 rounds of 95 grain +P .380 Corebond JHP's on target and the big bull down for good . COM at 7 yards is not a problem trust me. Heck if you are within 30 yards of me and I'm shooting at you with the little TCP you are in world of HURT!!
Quote from: yankee2500 on January 30 2014 10:06:58 AM MST
I have been carrying my Rohrbaugh 9mm since 2009, great pocket pistol. All metal construction, small, light and 9mm.
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I like those carbon-fiber grips on the Rohrbaugh. Do you have any reliability issues with this BUG? I read on the Rohrbaugh Forum, some of these pistols were hit, or miss. I ask, because these are awfully expensive little pups.
Range day was great with the 9mm SCCY Gen2 DAO. Anybody who doubts this pistol should give it a try. I speak only for their Gen 2. This is no doubt the best buy and affordable pocket type pistol on market that really works. It's snappy a little, but were 10mm folks, so snappy means nothing. This pistol has been torture tested and is proven. Their Gen 1's had some issues, but they reengineered the faults and their Gen 2's are sweet. lifetime warranty that go's with gun, not just the orig buyer. Moss Gun Shop did some videos on You tube. These are double stack also. 10 rnds.
Any pics?
Since this thread has revived a bit I'll put in my 2 cents for the LCR, chambered for 357 but I carry 38 +p in it. Very lightweight, excellent DAO trigger, easily concealed.
I also like having a revolver for a BUG so that I don't get confused reaching for the wrong mag under stress - no mistaking the speed-strips of 38 for a mag! - and also you can do some things that might not be prudent with an auto: shoot it through a pocket, shoot in contact with an assailant, things like that.
Glock 26 or 29 AIWB, and the LCR in a Desantis Intruder IWB, strongside 4-5 o'clock - I can access that LCR with either hand.
This is not exactly a pocket gun, but close to it.
I exchanged emails with Arne Boberg and he hopes to be shipping completed pistols in the next couple of weeks. I have one ordered in the first shipment. It should be interesting.
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/05/27/boberg-arms-xr45-subcompact-45-full-sized-performance/
Quote from: BEEMER! on May 28 2014 12:35:13 PM MDT
This is not exactly a pocket gun, but close to it.
I exchanged emails with Arne Boberg and he hopes to be shipping completed pistols in the next couple of weeks. I have one ordered in the first shipment. It should be interesting.
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/05/27/boberg-arms-xr45-subcompact-45-full-sized-performance/ (http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/05/27/boberg-arms-xr45-subcompact-45-full-sized-performance/)
I've been contemplating one as well. I have their XR9-S "Shorty" and do carry it some. It's about the same weight and width and the Kahr CM9, which I also have. The XR45 might be a bit much at 22oz empty, but it's still smaller than most anything out there. And Boberg reeks of quality, which is hard to argue with. But at a price. I suppose for those that simply 'must have' a .45 on them, this is a likely candidate. The XR9-S is the softest shooter by far, and I expect the XR45 will be the same. I still seem to reach for the Diamondback DB9 most of the time, just because it's so danged light and thin. I need to shut up now. I'm starting to justify yet another purchase! LOL :o
I have to admit that I have never been a fan of small 45's, but this one is different.
I agree with you on the price, but I still had to try one. i really admire Arne's innovation and engineering expertise. His designs are the most innovative firearms since the Glocks were introduced.
Below is an explanation of why the recoil is reduced on Boberg's XR series of pistols. I found it very interesting. I have seen a video of Arne shooting an XR9 without the recoil spring even in the pistol. He just flips the pistol forward after a shot to return the slide
the XR series does not use a recoil spring... the spring that runs the length of the slide is simply a slide return spring. you could toss it in the trash and shoot he pistol the rest of your life, you would just need to slap the slide forward manually.
in the XR series, the recoil is being absorbed by the lift mechanism and the rotating barrel mechanism. these are FAR more efficient at absorbing energy than a simple heavily packed recoil spring and a bunch of extra weight on the slide could ever do. that is how we are the softest felt recoil .45 and 9mm subcompact out there!
There's also the Zytel grips that are, by design, intended to flex to absorb some of the felt recoil. It's been the only "pocket" gun that I've been able to shoot for an extended period of time without having to wrap my trigger finger with a bandage or wear gloves. Even with +P ammo. It's that good, as those that have shot one would know. It's also a 7+1 system compared to most others at 6+1 (but not a deal breaker for me). I really like the way they managed to get another round in the magazine by not using a traditional style follower, just the exposed mag spring. No follower at all unless you purchase the optional one, which is just a piece of metal that doesn't interfere with the rounds the mag will hold. Very cool. Arne is simply more than an engineer. He's an enthusiast that's been at this since he was barely a teenager, and as an adult, finally gave up the corporate engineering world to pursue his dream. How great is that, while the rest of us can only dream about his pursuits.
This thing looks pretty amazing. What are they about a grand? Lol! I might have to throw my CM9 in the trash.
Stockboss, has that DB9 been problem free? 2 years ago when I was looking at pocket nines, I was considering one but found too much bad publicity for it.
Quote from: Dave84 on May 28 2014 07:20:53 PM MDT
This thing looks pretty amazing. What are they about a grand? Lol! I might have to throw my CM9 in the trash.
Stockboss, has that DB9 been problem free? 2 years ago when I was looking at pocket nines, I was considering one but found too much bad publicity for it.
Yeah man, they've had a miserable initial run a few years back. That's what happens when you design such lightweights when you're brand new to the firearms engineering world. But, as of late, and from what I've seen, DB is serious about their commitment and has made some major moves in improving the engineering of those tiny guns. The one I have has been through some revamping and so far has proven to be flawless. Doesn't mean it's fun to shoot, but it's not all that bad. I do wear gloves if I'm going through more than a couple mags worth, but others may handle it better than I can. lol. I feel pretty confident that it will perform well as a carry piece, and not too worried about the companies history in getting through all this. I think if they sat on their hands during the early stages of design, they would have been gone by now. Look at the introduction of the Glock 42. What a disaster! And it's a much larger gun than the DB9 and it's just a 380. Those tiny suckers are an awakening for the engineers! But that's what most people want. Tiny for concealment, and the manufacturers eventually resolve their early problems. Hopefully.
How do you like that CM9? Mine's been flawless so far.
I really like mine. Has only ever ftf twice out of over 1000 rounds. For whatever reason they both occurred first round of the extended 8 rd factory mag. The 6 rd mag is flawless. Shoots quite well for being double action. This is what I usually carry when I don't have the benefit of a jacket.
I got a Kel-Tec when they first started chambering them in 380 in early 2004. I have put a wide variety of ammo through mine with no malfunctions. I carry mine in a Uncle Mike's holster made for a J frame Smith. In the back pocket of any pants or shorts it looks like a wallet.
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Is that a pistol in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?