Just pulled the trigger on buying this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=364376115
Seems like it was a pretty good deal
The CCU is worth about $450+/- and I would guess the G20 and two Mags would be worth $200.00 easy
I might be wrong
Looking for input on Sights
Either the Basic M16 set or the MagPul MBus Gen 2 Flip-ups ?
Thoughts ? ? ?
Well, I went with the Basic M16 Sights
Anyone add the Recoil / Butt Pad to their Short M4 Stock ?
That looks like it would be fun to shoot. I wonder what kind of speeds the longer barrel yields.
I have the same setup but with the other M-4 stock. I don't think its very comfortable to shoot with when your putting hundreds of rounds downrange. I was looking for a buttpad, but might just buy a Magpul stock instead. They have a pad and the cheek rest looks to be much more comfortable.
Quote from: kmartinez1040 on September 11 2013 06:57:48 PM MDT
I have the same setup but with the other M-4 stock. I don't think its very comfortable to shoot with when your putting hundreds of rounds downrange. I was looking for a buttpad, but might just buy a Magpul stock instead. They have a pad and the cheek rest looks to be much more comfortable.
You can buy a Butt / Recoil Pad for your M4 that may solve your problem
Should be any of the ones that say "6 Position"
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=m4%20butt%20pad&sprefix=m4+butt+p%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Am4%20butt%20pad
I also found that Amazon has most of the exact same Accessory Parts that MechTech sells at a must cheaper price
Mech tech does have a hefty markup on their accessories. Thanks for the link although I still find using the stock as a cheek rest uncomfortable. How does the smaller stock compare?
KM:
Haven't received the whole set-up yet
Just got my hands on the CCU today, the G20 is due tomorrow
I will let you know
OH, for those interested, here's the exact same M4 Carry Handle / Rear Sight as MechTech sells:
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Detachable-Rifle-Carry-Handle/dp/B001BR1OT2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1379041435&sr=8-3&keywords=m4+carry+handle
And the M4 Front Post:
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Profile-Detachable-Front-Sight/dp/B002PNHJGI/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1379041839&sr=8-5&keywords=utg+front+sight%2C+a2
I'm thinking about trying it with the 1911 in 10mm.
That was my first plan, then the idea of the higher capacity of the G20 and the fact that it leaves my DGC unmolested was what put me on this path
If you don't have the G20 but the idea of a MT-G20 sounds good, check here:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=367301592
Took the MG20 to the Range yesterday
Ran 100 Rounds through it, just to test it out
Didn't really take the time to dial-in the Sights or the Scope
Just there to have fun and have my Wife test-out the Recoil
She felt the Recoil was nothing to be concerned with
In fact, she had a lot of fun basting away at the Octa-Gong at 50yrds
http://www.shooterselement.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=6
We had a few Fail to Feeds, but all-in-all, it ran pretty good
Hope to zero both the M4 Sights and the Scope out to 100+yrds next week
The MG20-M4 with an M2 knockoff:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/denstinettm14/MG20-M4_zps0701498d.jpg)
The MG20 with the M2 and a 8.5-25X50mm Tactical Scope:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/denstinettm14/MG20withScope_zps1b1d4e8f.jpg)
Took the MG20 out again yesterday
Zeroed the M4 Sights and shot it at 50 and 100yrds
Can continuously hit the 12" Octa-Gong at 100
And can shoot groups like this at 50 (20 Rounds within a 4" Ring:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/denstinettm14/Targets%20and%20Gongs/1001131527a_zps003af6ba.jpg)
Tried to zero the Scope but topped-out the Vertical before I could even get it on paper at 50, let alone 100yrds
Not sure WHAT I'm going to do there
Three options.
Shim the base (cheapest, but not recommended).
Get a +20 MOA base (probably the most expensive).
Look for scope rings that will allow you to create some offset. The burris signature rings are one option that supposedly allow you to zero your scope without touching the scope adjustments. This is probably the best bet.
http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/optic-accessories/scope-ring-inserts/signature-pos-align-offset-insert-kit-005-010-020-sku118626019-26144-45464.aspx?mc_id=12000&ch=csh&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c187_a_7c7313_a_7c118626019_d_118626016_d_10147
Quote from: sqlbullet on October 03 2013 08:02:49 AM MDT
Looks for scope rings that will allow you to create some offset. The burris signature rings are one option that supposedly allow you to zero your scope without touching the scope adjustments. This is probably the best bet.
http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/optic-accessories/scope-ring-inserts/signature-pos-align-offset-insert-kit-005-010-020-sku118626019-26144-45464.aspx?mc_id=12000&ch=csh&gdftrk=gdfV21820_a_7c187_a_7c7313_a_7c118626019_d_118626016_d_10147
This was my thought too
The simplest answer is always the best
I shimmed the back of the CCU's Rail up and now the Scope is at its centered Vertical and Bore Sighted-Zeroed at 50 Yards
Now I'll need the run it at the Range again and see where I'm really at
To make it permanent, I may machine the Rail to the right angle later on down the road
I have had mine (G20sf-MT) for about6 months. I bought it to compliment my G20 now I'm looking to get a dedicated lower for it so I don't have to take the scope off my 20 to use it.
I picked up a G29 for ccw. 10mm is addictive as hell. In 21/2 years G20sf- Dillon 650 (need more ammo ) MT for the 20-
29 for carry ----what next - man I'm glad Glock only makes 2 versions of the 10MM.
Doug
Quote from: ShadeTreeVTX on December 27 2013 09:37:05 PM MST
I have had mine (G20sf-MT) for about6 months. I bought it to compliment my G20 now I'm looking to get a dedicated lower for it so I don't have to take the scope off my 20 to use it.
I picked up a G29 for ccw. 10mm is addictive as hell. In 21/2 years G20sf- Dillon 650 (need more ammo ) MT for the 20-
29 for carry ----what next - man I'm glad Glock only makes 2 versions of the 10MM.
Doug
And I'm glad OTHER manufacturers make 10mm's.
Never met a Glock I liked. :P
Quote from: gandog56 on December 28 2013 07:10:34 AM MST
Never met a Glock I liked. :P
I'm with you there GD
But the Glock Lower works well with the MechTech and I do like having the 20 Round Mags
You'd have to have a lot of Magazine sticking out of the Grip of a 1911 to hold 20 Rounds
Quote from: DenStinett on December 29 2013 07:56:39 PM MST
Quote from: gandog56 on December 28 2013 07:10:34 AM MST
Never met a Glock I liked. :P
I'm with you there GD
But the Glock Lower works well with the MechTech and I do like having the 20 Round Mags
You'd have to have a lot of Magazine sticking out of the Grip of a 1911 to hold 20 Rounds
Where do you guys buy these elusive 20 round G20 Magazines??????????
Quote from: soutthpaw on December 30 2013 01:21:26 AM MST
Where do you guys buy these elusive 20 round G20 Magazines??????????
All five of mine are made from Factory 15 Round G20 Mags with an ARREDONDO Plus 5 Mag Base
http://www.brownells.com/magazines/handgun-magazines/magazine-parts/magazine-extension/plus-5-base-pad-w-spring-fits-glock-20-21-black-sku100001344-25346-43147.aspx
I have owned several guns since the late 60's - the one I carried since NY and now in GA for 30 years was a model59 S&W with combat Pacs. My favorite cal was the 41mag, so saying I don't shoot revolvers worth a sh*t. I do shoot auto's just fine( to me their a natural point and shoot weapon ) so saying - 4 years ago I decided to upgrade my ccw. I don't like 1911 type guns, I even built one from scratch - hated it, great gun but hated it - packed it away 27 years ago - gave it to my son - he loves it.
Now saying that
#1 10mm comes the closest to 41 in an auto -
#2 Dependable
#3 Durable
#4 Simplistic
#5 Very few parts
#6 Combat style reliability
#7 Mag capacity
If you notice Looks did not enter in this list, nor price, nor name.
GLOCK - So ugly only a mother could love its looks . Yes I know.
It took me a few years of evaluating all the guns, and Glock kept coming out on top. So Glock was what I went with. And I test fired virtually all of them first before deciding.
Like they say - What ever blows your skirt!
And the MT fits my fun list.
Doug
Have had a few Rounds jam between the Bolt Face and the top of the Chamber, so I checked the Glock Block and found that it needed a little lovin'
I broke the hard edge and added a bit of a Throated edge to boot
Polished the whole thing and reinstalled it
Runs smooth with Dummy Rounds, now to give it a hard Range workout
Sorry for the poor Cellphone Photos:
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/denstinettm14/Shop%20and%20Reloading/0103141124a_zpsebc66ec7.jpg)
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/denstinettm14/Shop%20and%20Reloading/0103141126a_zps2dbde15e.jpg)
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/denstinettm14/Shop%20and%20Reloading/0103141132a_zpsa6e112a2.jpg)
I hope you reload!!
I have a Mech Tech unit in 10mm for my Delta Elite..... BIG FUN!!
Quote from: Hairtrigger on January 04 2014 01:32:47 PM MST
I hope you reload!!
I have a Mech Tech unit in 10mm for my Delta Elite..... BIG FUN!!
You bet
All I shoot are my Hand / Re- Loads
The only Factory Ammo I own are for our Carry Guns, 22s and Shotshells
I though about buying a CCU for my DGC, but went for the HiCap option of the G20....15+5
You can't beat 20 Round Mags 8)
I keep thinking......
A Mechtech mated to this might make an awesome 10mm carbine.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Gandog56/Picture1.jpg)
I was originally thinking to match the MechTech with my Delta Gold Cup
But I went for the Glock mainly for the Mag capasity
Quote from: ShadeTreeVTX on January 01 2014 12:29:05 PM MST
GLOCK - So ugly only a mother could love its looks . Yes I know.
It's not their looks that turn me off. It's the fact I have never ever put one single model Glock in my small short fingered hand and it felt good to me. And the grip angle just seems to be wrong to me. I did the old eyeball test. I naturally pointed one at a target, locked my arm, and then peered down the sights. I was holder several inches ABOVE the bull. I don't do that with a 1911. (Or a Hi Power, or a SIG, or a revolver)
Yeah, I hear you on the Small Hand deal
Hated the Glock 20 as a Pistol
But as a Receiver for the CCU, it works very well
Took the MG20 with the modded GlockBlock out for a HOT test run
5 Mags, 100 Rounds, zero issues
I even ran one of the 20 Round Mags as fast as I could run the Trigger
Still run glitch free
Now to Strip and clean the MG20 and give the GlockBlock a final high Polish
I think I may have it licked
Took the MG20 out again today to zero both the M16 (style) Sights and the Scope
A couple at the Range tried to out and they both liked it, BUT the young Lady suffered a few Fail to Feeds :-[
200 Rounds and she was the only one who saw the FTFs ???
Neither the Guy or myself, had an issue, so we really watch her as she shot
I've come to the following concussion; My MG20 is "Limp Wrist" sensitive :o
You know that weird phenomenon where if you don't give the Pistol enough resistance to its recoil, it has Failure to Eject / Feed issues ?
We noticed that when she did have a FTF, she was not holding the Butt tight to her Shoulder AND / OR, was anticipating the recoil by moving backwards as she pulled the Trigger
We'll have to watch for this in other Shooters and report back
What kind of ammo are you running through that MT? Full power hot stuff, "FBI"/40 S&W lite stuff, or somewhere in between?
Quote from: Yondering on January 17 2014 11:29:49 AM MST
What kind of ammo are you running through that MT? Full power hot stuff, "FBI"/40 S&W lite stuff, or somewhere in between?
I'm running an Xtreme 165gr RSFP, in front of 9.3gr AA#5, with Win LPPs, in Win Brass
You can kinda, sorts see half of one here;
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/denstinettm14/Shop%20and%20Reloading/0103141124a_zpsebc66ec7.jpg)
Quote from: DenStinett on January 17 2014 08:11:27 PM MST
Quote from: Yondering on January 17 2014 11:29:49 AM MST
What kind of ammo are you running through that MT? Full power hot stuff, "FBI"/40 S&W lite stuff, or somewhere in between?
I'm running an Xtreme 165gr RSFP, in front of 9.3gr AA#5, with Win LPPs, in Win Brass
You can kinda, sorts see half of one here;
So basically a 40 S&W load. Have you tried it with full power 10mm loads, and how well do those work?
Quote from: Yondering on January 18 2014 02:33:20 PM MST
So basically a 40 S&W load. Have you tried it with full power 10mm loads, and how well do those work?
Not sure what .40 S&W you're pushing to that pressure
Looked at the Load Data for AA#5 lately ? ! ?
9.3 gr of AA#5 is close enough to the high end of what the Xtreme 165 Plated will take before it becomes unstable
But then again, you may know more about this than I do
One thing I did find that is interesting about my MechTech
Its Chamber is so tight, I really don't have to resize my Brass
Here's a (poor quality) Video I made today of the Brass I shot last week
De-Capped and Polished, but NOT resized
If this is how my Brass will come out every thime, it'll last a lifetime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHdWjm6iMYM
Quote from: DenStinett on January 18 2014 06:47:00 PM MST
Quote from: Yondering on January 18 2014 02:33:20 PM MST
So basically a 40 S&W load. Have you tried it with full power 10mm loads, and how well do those work?
Not sure what .40 S&W you're pushing to that pressure
Looked at the Load Data for AA#5 lately ? ! ?
9.3 gr of AA#5 is close enough to the high end of what the Xtreme 165 Plated will take before it becomes unstable
But then again, you may know more about this than I do
No, you're right, sorry, I was thinking AA7 load data. Glad to see it's working well for you.
BTW, regardless how tight your chamber is, I really don't recommend skipping the sizing step and relying on crimp only to hold the bullet.
Quote from: Yondering on January 19 2014 08:07:24 PM MST
BTW, regardless how tight your chamber is, I really don't recommend skipping the sizing step and relying on crimp only to hold the bullet.
No worries, I'd never skip a loading step
Just thought it was interesting that the Chamber was THAT tight
Quote from: Yondering on January 19 2014 08:07:24 PM MST
BTW, regardless how tight your chamber is, I really don't recommend skipping the sizing step and relying on crimp only to hold the bullet.
Anybody doing that....I don't want to be in the next lane over!
My G20sf lower should be here today - YEA!!! - I already have plans to get a lone slide assembly for it when its not on the MT - ordered more brass I plan to dedicate this 500rds to the MT - more cast heads for powder coating. I need to order a uniflow for hand loading the #9 powder and I need to get more #9 - 1 pound is not going to last long at all.
FUN FUN FUN.
Doug