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Title: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: Intercooler on June 30 2012 11:10:17 AM MDT
    Other than a new slide and .45 barrel reamed to accept the Magnum cartridge?
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: The_Shadow on June 30 2012 11:21:46 AM MDT
I don't know if you have enough travel for feeding or ejection of live rounds.  That being said you could do the 45 Super with maybe a recoil spring upgrade (may use the same as 10mm).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Super (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Super)
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: DM1906 on June 30 2012 11:23:27 AM MDT
That's almost funny...... "Can I put a blown 502 in my Vespa?  Answer:  No.  Anything short of a beefy gas operated system, either won't work or just blow apart.  You'll have to look at AMT, DE (the other DE), LAR, etc.  Simply, you need a lot more pistol.  Nominal pressure for these is around 40K (45ACP x2).
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: The_Shadow on June 30 2012 11:28:41 AM MDT
Given the cracked slides on many EAA's... ???  Slide mass has a lot to do with dwell timing so DM1906 raises another good point.
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: Intercooler on June 30 2012 11:31:24 AM MDT
Not true Sir. Saw a Glock done in in .45 Winchester Magnum 8)
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: Intercooler on June 30 2012 11:35:52 AM MDT
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532664_142810425848848_207623077_n.jpg)


Glock 21 3rd Gen, LWD 5.2" 45TH, Wolff steel guide rod/20# recoil spring. MY 45 Super Gun.
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: DM1906 on June 30 2012 12:03:34 PM MDT
The .45WM is a looooong way from a .45 Super.  The .45 super is just a higher pressure .45ACP.  The .45WM case alone is nearly as long as a .45ACP cartridge.  It's like comparing a .357Mag to a .357Max.
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: sqlbullet on June 30 2012 12:49:15 PM MDT
I am with Dm1906.  Lot more to this than just a barrel ream.  45 Super should be doable.
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: Intercooler on June 30 2012 01:33:51 PM MDT
Guess not. This is from the Glock owner:

It's actually a 21 with a LWD 5.2" reamed for .460 Rowland and the threads cut off to make it easier to carry. It has a Sprinco set up specifically for 460 with a 24# recoil spring. It's really hard to shoot but still pretty awesome. I carry Underwood 45 Super 230gr because I can count on the gun to function with that ammo. I have double standard mag springs in all of my mags, but without the comp it still jams on the last two rounds when shooting 460. 460 is just too damn hot for a straight barrel. 45 Winchester Magnum has a 30mm case where 460 Rowland has a 24.7mm case. And I believe only "Automag" and "LAR" made a 45 Win Mag pistol. There is no standard 45 pistol that I know of that can be converted to 45 Win Mag.


Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: Vice on July 05 2012 05:35:48 PM MDT
I own a couple of LAR 45 Win Mags and a Wildey in 45 Win Mag. 

Trust me, you do NOT want this round going through your Witness. :o
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: Yondering on July 06 2012 02:27:17 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on June 30 2012 11:10:17 AM MDT
    Other than a new slide and .45 barrel reamed to accept the Magnum cartridge?

Regardless whether the gun can handle the power of the 45 WM, you don't have enough room in the magazine. It would be stupid to convert to 45 WM but load the rounds short to fit the magazine; it would be no better than just using 45 Super.

The guy with the 460 Rowland is right; you really need  a muzzle brake to slow down the slide speed with a hot round like that. I'm convinced that it's necessary even with 45 Super, for reliable function and durability of the gun.
Title: Re: Can the EAA Hunter be made into .45 Winchester Magnum?
Post by: mirage on July 07 2012 09:25:58 AM MDT
My friend had a Wildey Survivor 45win mag.  His grip panels would fall off during shooting. When he used the slide release to chamber a round, it wouldn't put a round in the chamber. It was always a one shot gun, he could never regulate to gas correctly to strip another round from the magazine. He became frustrated with it and ended up selling. 

I wonder if the gun really works, you never see a video on youtube, that shows the gun cycling round after round. It's always one pull of the trigger, and the video ends. 

Vise, does your Wildey work?

The LAR Grizzley's are nice guns. I wish I purchased the 8 1/2' 45 win mag when I had a chance years ago.

Nick