So more work but those not failure with DRT here is the site;
http://drtammo.com/ (http://drtammo.com/)
Check out the videos and decide for yourself.
I took a nice 150 lb doe last season with my AR .223 dead right there the lungs were mush and the heart was gone.
Well I wanted to test the 105 grain bullet in the 10mm. Started with 10.0 grains of Longshot worked my way up to 12.5 grains.
I used a CCI large pistol primer.
Well from my LW Longslide I was really impressed 1850 FPS.
I have to save some wet PAC material but at 1400 I shot some into the same that I had used for the 200 grain Hawk the disruption of wet paper was impressive the penetration was close to 12".
Now maybe I am over driving them at 1800+.
I will also say they are very accurate.
More to come.
Not for my hunting needs! ??? I don't want that metal dust crap all spread out in my meat! SORRY! ???
I was thinking it would be good SD round but better yet varmints .
Just liked the velocity from a 6" barrel.
Got to admit the one I shot with the 223 I did even think about it in that the rib meat around the wound entrance was discarded along with any bloodshot meat.
With all due respect lead is better?
Take some breakfast cereal smash it up in a zip lock pull magnet along the outside of that bag smashed cereal what you will see is allot Iron.
But anyhow I am just messing with ya. Like anything this has its applications.
Shadow the compressed material is non- toxic.
That said no one would eat that is why Imleave the heart and lungs in the woods withnthebrest of the organs.
But I saw what you were getting at so I emailed and had nice exchange with DRT including discussions about the velocity. Seems that the benefit of driving this bullet at this speed is more hydraulic shock at the point of entry. I want to get some beef bones or pig ribs and put them in front of the wetpac and see how this does on bone. I will soak the bones to get them soft as though they are living.
But I see this load has allot of promise if it performs.
Don't get me wrong, as I am not saying they won't be effective. But as a meat hunter I don't like wasted meat, especially the heart. (sort of a trophy!) I quit hunting ducks when we were forced to use steel shot. They can bust your dental work! >:(
I have seen some pics of the dust spread thru the muscle meat of a front shoulder. It doesn't clean out so that is wasted meat. :'( Even though its non toxic, even an Old Cajun finds no seasoning value! LOL ;D
I understand the position.
But if you saw the ex rays of a deer shot with lead this may not be so bad........ :o
I ran another 25 rounds today I see these as a good round for SD and may be ok for thin skinned game .
Few things I like so far; fast , accurate ,lower recoil so follow up shots are quick, effective transfer of power and disruption of critical tissue, great speed.
But one of my favorites is pickled deer heart yum yum..........but with shooting I never have any to pickle LOL :))
Quote from: Ramjet on August 01 2013 05:00:31 PM MDTWell I wanted to test the 105 grain bullet in the 10mm. Started with 10.0 grains of Longshot worked my way up to 12.5 grains. I used a CCI large pistol primer. Well from my LW Longslide I was really impressed 1850 FPS. I have to save some wet PAC material...
More to come.
Very interested to see your future wet pack results.
Have you had those bullets laying around a long time already? I'm considering buying some myself, but it would seem they are out of stock for quite a while yet with their dealer backed up backorders that still are not filled from last year, let alone this year.
Yes I bought them last year but am down to 57 bullets with the testing I have done recently. Discussion with them would indicate maybe 12 weeks minimum for bullets I have asked them contact me when in stock.
I ran some SD drills and was really impressed with how well I could do double taps and triple taps keeping the sights on target. This along with multiple target drills went very well but I burned up about 40 rounds in short order. The repetition of shots on target with the lower recoil is a real plus.
I will post wetpac tests I need to save up newspaper and junk mail and will get this done next week I will post some pictures. My gut feeling the bullets will not penetrate through beef bones but who knows until I test.
Thanks. That puts things into perspective.
About the wet pack testing, like you said, who knows till you test them. I'm very curious to see what you all find out they are capable of or not.
I did some more testing on these. They put small entrance hole then kapok large tapered disruption I will post pics tomorrow. I thin deer with good shot placement these will get it done. I also think these could be really good Home defense bullets over penetration would not be concern. Because they are really moving they shoot really flat and recoil is minimal so recovery and follow up shots a snap.
Overall penetration is about 8" the jacket as you will see in the pics is in plain site.
Heavy bone this bullet would not fair well so shot placement even on deer should be behind the shoulder and varmints....well who cares.
Here the entrance in the wetpak it does not look like much but..........then the next photo is the wound channel so to speak that is about 4" in and goes a total of 5 inches the diameter was considerable and damage extensive the total penetration was about 8-10". If you look close you can see the jacket there is no core which I would expect with this compressed metal bullet.
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