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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on July 23 2013 07:29:50 PM MDT

Title: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on July 23 2013 07:29:50 PM MDT
    I haven't personally done these but wanted to find a single box and whalaa!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=355351233

   The Shadow and Raggedyman will a few to work with. I hope the weather gets better soon for Raggedyman... lots of tests to do!



Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: 4949shooter on July 23 2013 07:42:09 PM MDT
According to Mas Ayoob, this load had a failure to stop early on in the 10mm's use by police departments.
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: The_Shadow on July 23 2013 07:47:50 PM MDT
Hey Cool! 8)  Be glad to Pull'em for a good look!  ;D I think I have some Hornady 170 gr handloads stashed somewhere.  They where great shooters too.

Today was the first day with out rain here in quite some time.  We have had almost 10" already this month!  :o  This evening was spent cutting my mom's acreage, spots were still fairly wet, but got it done! :D
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on July 23 2013 07:53:32 PM MDT
   David Chronographed these before (in the sheet) but I'm wondering if we should experiment? If I a few extra extra rounds to Raggedyman would it be worth trying to up the velocity to 10mm range? A 600lb producer basically?
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: The_Shadow on July 23 2013 08:03:49 PM MDT
What did David get form the ones he tested?  ???  1100 fps?
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on July 23 2013 08:18:24 PM MDT
  You are looking at 1150 blazing FPS  :)
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: 4949shooter on July 24 2013 02:23:20 AM MDT
That is 40 S&W. Let's torque those suckers up to 1300.  8)

Edit: Here is the PMC 10mm in gel. The listed velocity for this test is 1203 fps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z49Lbnt16M&list=PL058376CF5DCF71AF&index=51



Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on July 24 2013 05:08:16 AM MDT
Did I miss some information? I didn't see any data?
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: DAVIDF on July 24 2013 05:50:30 AM MDT
They post the velocity at the beginning of the video & also on their website http://brassfetcher.com/index_files/10mmAutoSlowMotion.htm

It looks to do quite well to me from their video. But that is the only test I am aware of. I would like to see Raggedyman test these loads.
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: 475/480 on July 24 2013 06:16:22 AM MDT
You would hope they were loaded a little heavier than 1150 fps. If you can spare 2 bullets I will load them to 1300+ fps and shoot them into wetpack.


Sean
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on July 24 2013 07:09:24 AM MDT
Brass Fetcher didn't put penetration or expansion numbers.
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: 4949shooter on July 24 2013 07:39:19 AM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on July 24 2013 07:09:24 AM MDT
Brass Fetcher didn't put penetration or expansion numbers.

Yeah they never do.
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on July 24 2013 07:44:12 AM MDT
Well it was entertaining to watch ;D
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: DAVIDF on July 24 2013 08:23:25 AM MDT
Brassfetcher includes that data in the summary table http://www.brassfetcher.com/10mm%20Auto/10mm%20Auto%20Summary%20Table.pdf. But not always the same load that they have in their videos or sometimes at a different velocity. In this table they only show a Remington load.  But, they do include expansion as square inches rather than diameter.

Based on the velocity and remaining energy when the bullet exits the 10" gelatin block it would penetrate around 16". I am basing that on comparing it to other videos on their website that also have data on their summar tables.
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on August 05 2013 03:50:30 PM MDT
 Not bad looking ammo. If Raggedyman gets cranked up again I will send these with the others for gel.

(https://sphotos-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1000013_569776566393713_655966265_n.jpg)

Velocity test Saturday!
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: Intercooler on August 07 2013 05:57:14 PM MDT
  Tested these today. Whatever powder they use stinks and gives off some kind of weird poof  :o

Limited Pro 4.75" 1068, 1111, 1112, 1108, 1108, 1108. Average = 1101.4 FPS/ 458 LBS
Title: Re: Won some PMC 170gr HP for testing
Post by: DAVIDF on August 09 2013 03:38:52 PM MDT
I was shooting only a magazine full of those today. Rather light recoil but rather bright flash. I'm a little disappointed in the velocity. Much lower than brassfetcher recorded in his test.