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Title: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: Intercooler on July 12 2013 03:11:54 PM MDT
  They appear to be the Sierra bullets we recently found on the Buffalo Bore 180's. It will be interesting to see them in gel as well. I will test the velocity of these and the 165 TMJ's tomorrow.

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Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: The_Shadow on July 12 2013 04:10:53 PM MDT
Cool, It will be interesting to see what shakes out!   ;D
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: Intercooler on July 13 2013 09:50:54 AM MDT
    These all looked pretty good.

Underwood Ammo 135gr Sierra HP (Match 4.75") 1639, 1638, 1591, 1653, 1616. Average = 1627.4 FPS/ 794 LBS
Underwood Ammo 135gr Sierra HP (Hunter 6") 1783, 1770, 1786, 1763, 1732. Average = 1766.8 FPS/ 936 LBS

Underwood Ammo 165gr TMJ (Match 4.75") 1420, 1394, 1423, 1399, 1431. Average = 1413.4 FPS/ 732 LBS
Underwood Ammo 165gr TMJ (Hunter 6") 1442, 1482, 1491, 1468. Average = 1470.75 FPS/ 793 LBS

Underwood Ammo 180gr TMJ (Hunter 6") 1399, 1379. Average = 1389 FPS/ 771 LBS
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: The_Shadow on July 13 2013 02:53:36 PM MDT
What a difference an inch and a quarter makes!  :o
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: RMM on July 13 2013 03:22:58 PM MDT
Despite the fears of many on this forum Underwood has not watered down their ammo!  Those are all impressive numbers.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: Intercooler on July 13 2013 05:04:50 PM MDT
Yea. I may be in the crowd that doesn't want it watered  8)
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: pacapcop on July 13 2013 07:35:13 PM MDT
Such a tough guy. Only messing. ;D
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: Intercooler on July 14 2013 06:31:48 PM MDT
I don't really have any light stuff. Just heavy hitting stuff.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: pacapcop on July 15 2013 05:22:28 AM MDT
I shot a box yesterday, actually very accurate and not bad in the recoil dept. The 155's, they bark and recoil was there.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: 445 supermag on July 18 2013 11:15:43 PM MDT
If I am not mistaken UA lists ONLY 135 gr SIERRA.  No nosler anymore.

Wonder why??

But have to say that when I got my 135 gr sierra's for them they are very accurate in my KKM drop in barrel.

Brian
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: The_Shadow on July 19 2013 09:14:40 AM MDT
Maybe better quality bullet or just availability issues? 

I have measured some Nosler bullets which were under the 0.400" (0.399")  ??? Given the current supply issues who knows?
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: pacapcop on July 19 2013 07:13:24 PM MDT
135 Nosler are known as a FRAG round. Massive wound cavity. Correct me if I am wrong.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: The_Shadow on July 19 2013 08:10:00 PM MDT
In the words of Mike McNett of Double Tap...
"Frag Nasty"
DoubleTap 10mm      Penetration / expansion
135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty

"The 135 EXPLODES milk jugs at that speed!" :o
Of course he did test them from a 10"T/C @ 2022fps as reported...
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: pacapcop on July 20 2013 07:06:01 AM MDT
I recall that test where thick pork ribs and a cows heart heart in a jug wrapped with 12 layers of a towel. Platform was a Glock 20. That demonstration sold me on the 135 nosler as a warm weather carry round and urban carry. It fraged, but for close self def, im not interested in blowing thru someone. The wound that will be sustained was massive. My G20 spits them out. On the cold weather carry,im leaning towards the Nugent round. Will Kevin be offering the Noslers in 135 ever again is my question. Ill drop him an e-mail.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: Intercooler on July 20 2013 10:38:52 AM MDT
   I'm pretty sure Kevin just can't get the Noslers at the moment.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: REDLINE on July 20 2013 11:13:47 AM MDT
Quote from: pacapcop on July 20 2013 07:06:01 AM MDTI recall that test where thick pork ribs and a cows heart heart in a jug wrapped with 12 layers of a towel. Platform was a Glock 20. That demonstration sold me on the 135 nosler as a warm weather carry round and urban carry.

I've seen that video on YouTube before and feel the same way.

Wasn't too hard to find the video even though it has been quite some time since I last viewed it.  Here it is;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdB8yo085Sw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdB8yo085Sw)

I forgot how impressive it was.  12 layers of towel, thick slab of pork ribs, gallon jug with jello and cows heart, and a heavy plastic jug filled with water behind, which most of the bullet made it into.  The overall damage was quite a big greater than I would have expected.  Even the impact disruption was pretty wild.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: pacapcop on July 21 2013 01:41:30 PM MDT
I hear ya. Guess we will have to see what the Sierra Bullet does. But I like the Nosler results in this load.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: REDLINE on July 21 2013 06:42:16 PM MDT
No doubt. 

Does anyone know if Sierra uses a thicker copper jacket than Nolser for the 135gr 40cal bullets?
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: The_Shadow on July 25 2013 09:41:31 AM MDT
Intercooler shows;
QuoteThese all looked pretty good.

Underwood Ammo 135gr Sierra HP (Match 4.75") 1639, 1638, 1591, 1653, 1616. Average = 1627.4 FPS/ 794 LBS
Underwood Ammo 135gr Sierra HP (Hunter 6") 1783, 1770, 1786, 1763, 1732. Average = 1766.8 FPS/ 936 LBS

Underwood Ammo 165gr TMJ (Match 4.75") 1420, 1394, 1423, 1399, 1431. Average = 1413.4 FPS/ 732 LBS
Underwood Ammo 165gr TMJ (Hunter 6") 1442, 1482, 1491, 1468. Average = 1470.75 FPS/ 793 LBS

If these are the ones he sent for pull-down they were loaded with Hodgdon's LongShot powder. (New for Underwood)

Underwood Ammo 135gr Sierra HP  13.2 grains  LS
Underwood Ammo 165gr Uni-Cor TMJ 10.2 grains  LS
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: Intercooler on July 25 2013 09:56:33 AM MDT
Yup. Same ones.
Title: Re: Got some Underwood 135's but they aren't Nosler
Post by: pacapcop on July 25 2013 10:20:56 AM MDT
Kev shot me an email,once Nosler in supply they will be back in production.