Just passing this on for all of us to see. Please read to see if this affects what you use... ???
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This link from their website http://www.hornady.com/support/availability (http://www.hornady.com/support/availability)
I'm very happy to see no .400 caliber XTP bullet listed! Those are what I'm mostly waiting on at this time.
BTW, nice insight toward how one major manufacturer is handling the current firearms/ammo situation. It also helps put things in perspective.
I'm passing it on but trying to make sure it's valid. Has anyone phoned Hornady on this?
I got it from the owner Handloads forum, I do trust him. 8)
I also am happy about no 40 cal xtp listed for components. But amazing how much they really do produce. Wow :o
Brian
I look at that list and wonder what will they have left to produce? It looks like they will still be manufacturing 10mm 180 XTP and 165 FTX.
Thanks for posting, Shadow.
Is their a Snopes for this ;D I'm getting feedback saying it is fake.
A call to Hornady (1-800-338-3220, 8am-5pm Mon.-Thurs. and Friday till 4:30pm, Central Time) Monday morning would probably tell all.
I will say some of the items on the list very much surprise me. Others, not in the least.
This is NOT true if you go to their site they dispelled this and specifically address the rumor mill.
Phoned them. True true.
IC...Please clarify your statement "True true."
Does this apply to Ramjet's post: "True, this is a rumor"
Or does this apply to the original information: "True, we are going to stop making some of our less profitable rounds and focus on our biggest money makers"
Confused ???
True they are stopping 150 bullets
True 150 ammos as well
Supply-demand -capacity?
Seems lead is becoming a precious metal!
I think this is a case of maximizing profits and protecting contracts.
They have enough capacity to make X rounds per day. They have certain contractual obligations which govern how they spend a certain amount of their production capacity. If they can sell immediately ALL of the excess beyond the contract commit, regardless of caliber/cartridge, why not make only cartridges that return the highest profit.
We have already seen this in other areas. AR makers are mostly making just 5.56 uppers these days. Not that there isn't other demand, just they make quite a bit more money on a 5.56 than a 300 BLKT.
Profit is whay they are in business so that should drive the business decisions as long as they are ethical.
I guess in general I would say I simply don't find it in any way surprising. Nor do I see a negative aspect from any standpoint toward Hornady.
As far as we're mostly concerned here within the 10mm-firearms community, there shouldn't be anything to complain about in that: there is not any .400 caliber component bullet on the list, even though they've stopped the 10mm ammo loads with the 155gr and 200gr XTP bullets the 180gr load is still being produced, and even almost all component bullets that could be used in 9x25 Dillon are still being produced.
We really shouldn't be surprised. The hoarding along with what would have been usual sales emptied shelves of most ammo and components, among many other shooting related items, almost a year ago now. And I don't know if anyone has noticed, but it would seem we're going to have the same communist president in the White House for over 3 years yet who has already seriously threatened much of the shooters world. Does someone here think he's not done trying to get it beyond a threat level? They are treading relatively lightly right now because of the mid-term elections coming up. After those midterms there is nothing holding our communist president back from at least attempting to do whatever and anything he sees fit to do.
Anyone out there that thinks we're anywhere near the end of the hoarding era overall is kidding themselves. Hopefully the tides changes after our next president elect.
That next presidential election is a ways off.... :-[
I know, it's scary. >:D I feel that means the same for hoarding and I don't blame a single person for hoarding at this time. Well, when something can be found to hoard. ;D
yea in Fleet Farm today in Green bay Wisconsin they had pretty good shipment come in several hundred of every caliber including 22 LR now they still have a one box limit because of opportunists but i was able to get to bricks of 22LR and 250 rounds of 45 ACP Magtec loaded ammo. but many folks hanging and moving towards the ammo area.
I alway thought Hornady was just complimenting their offering with ammo they are best at bullets. I guess ammo just fits in naturally to their offerings.
There you go! Still good to Go!
Those getting those Pulled 200gr GDHP's will be in a good position for turn around sales or self stocking handloads... :o
WOW :o
Two years just to fill current orders. I wonder how much of that is scheduled to go just to Cabela's, Graf & Sons, and Midway.
I don't know, but I personally think this is a good idea on Hornady's part.
They are trying to make enough of their most popular offerings to get something out there to their customers. I would commend them for their efforts.
Agreed. I'm pretty sure they'ld prefer to not stop production of any product they manufacture. In the mean time they claim moving toward further expansion of their facility and manufacturing equipment. What more can we ask.
Quote from: Ramjet on July 08 2013 12:15:44 PM MDT
Profit is whay they are in business so that should drive the business decisions as long as they are ethical.
Pretty much what I was getting ready to post. So I'll just add this, you nailed it!
I don't think it is over yet but the current buying trend is slowing slightly! When it becomes saturated the market will stabilize and shelves will once again show stock. Then the companies will grind to a halt as the market settles down! Prices may come down again too!
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 13 2013 05:44:07 PM MDT
I don't think it is over yet but the current buying trend is slowing slightly! When it becomes saturated the market will stabilize and shelves will once again show stock. Then the companies will grind to a halt as the market settles down! Prices may come down again too!
We can only hope, in the meantime I will continue to hand load my plinking and hunting ammo and hoard my factory loads for the Zombie apocalypse :D
Quote from: 10MMGary on July 14 2013 12:13:53 AM MDT
We can only hope, in the meantime I will continue to hand load my plinking and hunting ammo and hoard my factory loads for the Zombie apocalypse :D
Yep! I have the Zombie apocalypse covered...
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In many calibers too!
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When you care enough to send the very best Brain Splatterin' projectiles.... :o
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 13 2013 05:44:07 PM MDT
I don't think it is over yet but the current buying trend is slowing slightly! When it becomes saturated the market will stabilize and shelves will once again show stock. Then the companies will grind to a halt as the market settles down! Prices may come down again too!
Slightly being the keyword, still leaving me without the bullets I want regardless. As for primers specifically, I don't even see
slightly entering the picture yet, except for shotgun and muzzleloader which don't help me handloading 10mm Auto.