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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm Ammo pull-downs => Topic started by: The_Shadow on May 30 2013 04:43:07 PM MDT

Title: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on May 30 2013 04:43:07 PM MDT
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP
Ballistics Information: 10mm Auto
Muzzle Velocity: 1350 fps
Muzzle Energy: 728 ft. lbs
Pictures: Before/After disassembly:
Brass Make/Headstamp: Remington - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6355"/Dia. 0.4000":  180gr. Sierra JHP
Actual weigh 180.0 grains  Crimp Diameter 0.3995" 
HP Dia 0.1710"  HP Depth 0.1855" Mouth 0.2610"
C.O.A.L.: 1.2465"
Primer: Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.4220" Crimp Diameter 0.4215" Length 0.9880"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: Power Pistol 10.0 grains
Tested in 10mm S&W1006 5" 1349 fps June 8, 2013
Case expanded to 0.4275", primer slightly flattened, case shows some stress.

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Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on May 30 2013 05:32:19 PM MDT
I see you got them  ;D
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: REDLINE on May 30 2013 09:26:18 PM MDT
I'ld like to see what those Sierra bullets look like after penetrating water jugs.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: doverpack12 on June 02 2013 10:22:12 AM MDT
Any testing done with these yet?  One of my local stores got 5 boxes in and allowed me to take a peek inside at the bullet used so I knew if I wanted to buy them or not.  All 5 new boxes were the Sierra and the one remaining on the shelf matched my other box that I believe is a Winchester bullet.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: sqlbullet on June 03 2013 11:36:27 AM MDT
Should be close to advertised specs.

The older Alliant data for Power Pistol in 10mm showed a max load of 8.7 grains under a 180 gr JHP for 1240 fps.  Gotta think an extra 15% of powder is going to make a difference.  I would guess them to be around 1325 actual measured velocity.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: doverpack12 on June 03 2013 12:08:05 PM MDT
I figured they would make the velocity fine or be close since most Buffalo Bore is.  I was wondering on testing of the bullet.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on June 03 2013 02:48:53 PM MDT
They were tested a while back for velocity. You mean gel?
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: sqlbullet on June 03 2013 03:34:51 PM MDT
Yeah..he want to know how the HP's work.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on June 03 2013 04:58:37 PM MDT
Raggedyman has a whole bunch of them but hasn't said when he will get to test any.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: doverpack12 on June 03 2013 05:52:56 PM MDT
Yes I meant gel testing for the bullet.  I will wait eagerly for the gel results.  Thanks to all the testers on here giving great information to all the rest of us.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: gofastman on June 07 2013 08:48:17 AM MDT
Buffalo Bore says their loads contain flash suppresant, Power Pistol is the flashiest powder I can think of other than BlueDot
I wonder if they are using Alliants new BE-86 powder http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/be-86.aspx (http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/powder/be-86.aspx)

it would make sense, seeing as how Power Pistol = BE-84
this new powder could be a touch slower burning, which would explain the heavier charge volume.

Oh boy, Im excited, I think BE-86 may be the new ultimate 10mm powder!!!
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on June 07 2013 10:43:39 AM MDT
gofastman, thanks for the info...
Well if it is what it is labeled then would be more like Bullseye than Power Pistol?   However I did write a letter to Alliant asking for load data (of which none is listed in there newest online or loading pamphlet).

I wish they would have shown some data examples...

Hopefully, I will receive some info to study soon!
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: gofastman on June 08 2013 10:29:08 AM MDT
QuoteWell if it is what it is labeled then would be more like Bullseye than Power Pistol?
I dont quite understand what you mean here....
as I understand it BE and PP are very similar, PP being slower burning and more forgiving, but requiring considerably higher charges than BE
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on June 08 2013 04:19:15 PM MDT
Originally Power pistol was a derivative of Bullseye power hence the name BE-84 in the beginning.
This newer BE-86 will also be a derivative of Bullseye power adjusted and blended with the flash suppressants.
I am hoping for it to be closer to or slightly Power Pistol in speed of the burn rate.
However it might be somewhere closer to Bullseye? ???
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on June 08 2013 04:59:15 PM MDT
Tested in 10mm S&W1006 5"  June 8, 2013
10mm Buffalo Bore 180gr  Sierra JHP 1349 fps
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on June 08 2013 05:28:29 PM MDT
That's about perfect for rating in that barrel length.
Title: Re: Buffalo Bore 180gr Sierra JHP Pull-Down
Post by: REDLINE on June 10 2013 06:49:48 PM MDT
Yep, Buffalo Bore may be on the high side regarding price, but at least they don't lie about velocity like DT, and put out a very respectable 10mm load to boot.