In a 10mm pistol load?
Midway has a bunch of blemished bullets in .40 cal available. It is their SST ML line. What do you think? I am thinking of getting some and seeing if all the specs match up to load a few. 15 bucks for 50 isn't a big deal if it doesn't work out...
Here is a pic.
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To use them in the pistol you may need to lop off the point or pull it out altogether for a HP design... 8)
Either do what Shadow suggested or you're going to have to load really light loads to keep pressures safe enough to load them into your magazine max COAL.
At $0.30 each it really isn't any deal at all for 10mm, you can buy XTP & other quality bullets for around $0.20 each.
You think the COAL would be too long? What if you set the bullet deeper in the case? What drawbacks are there to that if the still feed properly?
Remember, I am a newbie to pistol reloading, so be gentle....
By seating too deeply for a particular charge weight you will increase pressures. You would have to take measurements to see just how deep the bullet base will be at a particular COAL and base you load accordingly! ???
By cutting the tip flat or pulling the tip out this will get you closer to a standard 200 grain or 180 grain bullet lengths and seating depths to keep pressures closer to know load values.
Quote from: Clarinath on May 16 2013 09:56:42 AM MDT
You think the COAL would be too long? What if you set the bullet deeper in the case? What drawbacks are there to that if the still feed properly?
Remember, I am a newbie to pistol reloading, so be gentle....
Clarinath, I'm sorry that I wasn't clear enough in my last post. You could set the bullet back further in the case to some degree, but that raises pressures exponentially inside of the cartridge, especially since these bullets appear to be very long with the tip. You would have to significantly reduce the powder charge, even then you are in uncharted territory. This is probably not a good idea unless you have some experience with reloading and the time and patience to do a very slow workup.
This same principle is why it is not recommended to re-chamber the same round many times: bullet setback. The bullet is pushed further into the case, which reduces the volume available for gas expansion, which increases pressure exponentially, which can lead to a kaboom!
I hope that answers your question. Welcome to the forum! This is a great place to be and I have learned a lot here.
I have been loading rifle cartridges for 8 or 9 years, straight wall (50 Beowulf) for 3. The 10mm is my first pistol reloading and there are slight differences.
When working up a load with lower powder charges, as long as the bullet is seated no deeper than the bearing surface or to the edge of the ogive, and you are not compressing the powder, it should work out ok, correct?
Starting out very low and working up shouldn't be a problem in this case. And if the pointed bullet works in a pistol COAL, wouldn't that give you ballistic advantages over a flat nosed bullet?
Granted, velocities are lower than rifle velocities but it might work, and that's all a part of reloading, as long as it's done safely. Or so I thought.
At typical pistol range (under 100 yards) I don't think that there is much to be gained by using a more aerodynamic bullet, especially if you have to give up initial velocity to get the increased BC.
In a 10mm, for example, taking the same powder charge & bullet and seating it just .1" deeper may take a safe 35,000 psi load and push it up into the 45,000+ psi (unsafe) range.
The percentage of case volume change is greater than seating a rifle bullet deeper.
You can make it work safely by reducing the powder charge but with that reduced powder you limit your overall potential velocity which may end up being too slow for the bullet to effectively expand.
Even at full 10mm velocity that bullet may be moving too slow to be effective if it was designed for muzzleloader/carbine velocity. I good muzzleloader will push that out over 2,000 fps. You'll be lucky to get 1,200 out of a 10mm handgun if it's seated deep.
Excellent point when explained that way. Thanks!
If you absolutely cannot find bullets to load, before you resort to this, Cabela's has Barry's bullets in stock. All different sizes. I'd rather use those than try something like this.
Yea the berry's are good target and they are supposed to be producing some HP designs soon as well! But that is why I got involved in casting some bullets, supply for bulk target play or needed projectiles in situations such as the current status.
Hey I'd trust my life to any of my cast bullets... :P