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10mm Ammuntion => Reloading 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Gaintwist on May 09 2023 03:20:58 PM MDT

Title: Alternate powders
Post by: Gaintwist on May 09 2023 03:20:58 PM MDT
I am unable to locate any BE-86 or Bluedot so I am wondering if my leftover schuetzen and bigbore lead bullet ctg powder will work in the 10mm. I have lots of

H-110, Win 296, IMR 4759, H-4227, H-108 (said to be early AA#9)

They all fall a little bit slower than Longshot on the speed chart. Has anyone seen any loading data for the above or have some experience with it and 180g jacketed bullets?

thanks in advance,
-lige
Title: Re: Alternate powders
Post by: The_Shadow on May 09 2023 06:32:46 PM MDT
Winchester had data for the 296 powder, while it wasn't very fast velocities as shown, I think there is room for using more powder if you look at the pressure values although you'll be starting to compress the loads some.  Also H-110 can be substituted directly for the same data.  With 296 magnum primers should be used.  Also bullets need to have a very secure case tension fit.  Using a small amount of bullet sealant would help for better ignition properties before the bullet starts it movement.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2jXwWcnT/Winchester10mmdata1-zpsc7e199e5.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternate powders
Post by: sqlbullet on May 09 2023 08:44:35 PM MDT
No experience with any of those powders, but I do have experience with surplus, non-canister powders.  Of those options I would try the H-108.  Reduce #9 data, probably by 15% for a good margin, and test over a chronograph.  Work up slowly to see how close your lot is to #9.  With a little luck it will be a bit faster rather than slower.  That would make it more useful for 10mm.
Title: Re: Alternate powders
Post by: The_Shadow on May 09 2023 09:42:58 PM MDT
I would like if someone would take a good closeup pic of the H-108 powder and message me some pics of this H-108 powder.
Title: Re: Alternate powders
Post by: Gaintwist on May 10 2023 12:31:34 PM MDT
I can't attach my small 61K jpg pic. I choose the file but when I post it says "could not find path" . Message me an email address and I will send it.
-lige
Modified by The_Shadow  Added your image of H-108 you sent me Thanks
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xsgrXXv/H-108-crop.jpg)

Here is the sample of my first canister of Accurate Arms #9 early 1990 and it is 100% microbeeds
(https://i.postimg.cc/gkNJRd73/IMG-0210.jpg)
Title: Re: Alternate powders
Post by: Gaintwist on May 22 2023 08:52:35 AM MDT
Shot a couple of H108 loads with 180 jacketed out of CMMG carbine with good accuracy and function.
10g 982'/s, 11g 1070'/s

I have a pound of Accurate#7 I will try next.