Looking at the Springfield Ronin and Kimber TLE II.
Opinions, good, bad, ugly?
Do you own one?
I'm a life long Kimber hater, so I'd advise against that one.
I really like my M&P 10mm, but if you are only looking for a 1911, I'd go for the Dan Wesson.
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I own a couple of TLE IIs. Both are excellent guns. The .45 has an alloy frame and the 10mm is, of course, all steel. I?m very happy with both.
Considering the features, for the right price I think the Kimber is a better value for the money.
I had a Kimber custom 11 in 10mm. Nice pistol, accurate and ran very well. Stupidly traded it for an m and p 10. Tried to get the Kimber back to no avail so I traded the POS Smith for a rock island 10mm. I really like the rock island.
Dan Wessons are nice as are nighthawks.
Have a DW Bruin 10mm, and a few other DWs. The DWs are Very nice guns for the money. This from a long time 1911 shooter with more than a "few" in the stable...
Are there issues with Springfield 1911`s?
Quote from: 40bore on January 13 2023 04:31:49 PM MST
Are there issues with Springfield 1911`s?
Not that I?m aware of. I bought the 6? TRP Operator 5 years back, and it has always run smoothly with stout hand loads. Last summer I bought a XDM Elite 4.5?. I preferred it to the S&W.
THE PISTOL ARGUMENT IS LIKE THE OLD "CHEVY OR FORD', ETERNAL ARGUMENTS. I HAVE OWNED OVER 30 10MM HANDGUNS. AS RECENTLY POSTED I CURRENTLY HAVE 20 10MM HANDGUNS.
THE 10MM IS A GREAT ROUND FOR LONG RANGE ACCURATE DELIVERY OF POWER. MANY PLATFORMS/HANDGUNS HAD TO GO THROUGH FAILURES. THE COLT 1911 DELTA ELITE CRACKED FRAMES. THE KIMBER LINE SUFFERED FAILURES AND SO ON WITH MOST 10MM PISTOLS. TODAY ARMS COMPANIES HAVE MANUFACTURED DEPENDABLE 10MM FIREARMS.
THE SIG P220 IS A GREAT HANDGUN . BUT IF YOU LIKE THE GLOCK,COLT, S&W, OR ANY OF THE IMPORTS YOUR CHOICE WILL BE THE BEST.
There are a couple of older threads regarding problems some forum members had with their Springfield 10mms. If I remember correctly, one jammed constantly and the other was horribly inaccurate.
The inaccuracy problem was not dealt with very well by Springfield, which was somewhat surprising. I believe they didn't really do anything and told the member to just live with it.
The problem with judging a product line based on some anecdotal stories on the internet is that it doesn't address the thousands, or tens of thousands of pistols a manufacturer makes with no issues.
At one point in time Kimber made and sold more 1911s than all the other manufacturers combined. A .1% defective rate for all manufacturers would still mean Kimber made more defective pistols than all the other manufacturers. It does not mean that they made a less quality gun. They simply made so many more that a similar percentage of quality control issues resulted in more guns with issues.
The cracked frame issues on the first Delta Elites was really a non issue. It resulted in removing the metal from the frame that closed off the top of the notch in the frame that accommodates the slide stop.
I would also disagree with "The Kimber line has suffered failures and so on with most 10mm pistols." Most Kimber 10mm pistols have not suffered failures. Kimber has continued to make 10mm pistols for decades, especially when other companies abandoned the caliber. That would make no sense if they were constantly inundated with warranty costs.
I will agree with Jim Bridger that it is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument. Unless you're talking about Dodge trucks or Kel-tecs, then you're absolutely right ;) ;D
Here in Alaska the Glock 20 dominate for Bear Protection and Trail pistol.
I don't have either. I have Ruger, RIA and Para in 10mm. The RIA and Para are widebodies, so the only "comparable" gun is the Ruger. It's not on your list, so I won't comment on it.
If I were deciding between the two guns the OP names, Ronin and TLE II, I would pick the TLE II assuming you don't mind the extra price. Reason is simple. Overall these makers are comparable, but the TLE II is a tier up from the Ronin. That equates mostly to front strap checkering which I like.